Does anyone have feedback on a resident screening process that forgoes income verification?

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3 months 2 days ago #644176 by Kate Costello
General Question - Does anyone have feedback on a resident screening process that forgoes income verification - meaning residents are qualified on credit/criminal only without consideration for debt-to-income ratio?
3 months 2 days ago #644176 by Kate Costello
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3 months 2 days ago #644177 by Wendy DeSchoolmeester
Is this for a subsidy rent program? What type of feedback are you looking for?
3 months 2 days ago #644177 by Wendy DeSchoolmeester
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3 months 2 days ago #644178 by Kate Costello
Wendy Kaiser DeSchoolmeester we are considering for conventional screenings. We have found in reviewing evictions occurring over the last 24 months that income qualifying was not an issue with those evicted the vast majority of the time and that it truly was a credit situation that we should have weighed more heavily in hindsight. I'm of the theory that those who take paying seriously figure out how to pay and those that don't, won't., so why eliminate people that have a strong history of on-time payments across their credit history if they don't make the formulaic income qualifier.
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3 months 2 days ago #644178 by Kate Costello
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3 months 2 days ago #644179 by Julie Curtis
Kate Costello most of them likely provided you with fraudulent paystubs. Either that or you’re in a very volatile market and need to significantly increase deposits or offer alternative programs. Screening won’t help with default other than to weed out fraud… I recommend Two Dots. What you are suggesting will lead to a large demographic of people earning illegal income…aka highly likely to default.
3 months 2 days ago #644179 by Julie Curtis
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3 months 2 days ago #644180 by Kate Costello
Sorry - so what I was looking for was any feedback from company's that taken this approach with their screening models.
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3 months 2 days ago #644181 by Brooke Nuber-Soldate
With how expensive rents are getting, removing the income requirements has helped people get in, but it's precarious and bordering on predatory to allow someone to spend 50%+ of their income on your rental contract.
I would recommend lowering it to like 2x or 2.5x rent, but eliminating it can cause issues for people who don't fully understand their budgets. Particularly first time renters. It's protection for both you and the tenant to have it.
Credit can definitely be an indicator, but I caution you with first time renters still. I had excellent credit in college because I had loans but I wasn't paying them at the time so my credit history wasn't actually a reflection of my budgeting skills. I just had debt that hadn't gone bad and my credit score looked good because of it. I was making $8000 a year at the time, so I would not be a very good renter but you wouldn't know that if you didn't ask for my income.
3 months 2 days ago #644181 by Brooke Nuber-Soldate
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2 months 3 weeks ago #644225 by Anonymous
We found if you have good credit you pay your bills. That was our main criteria. Conventional property
2 months 3 weeks ago #644225 by Anonymous
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2 months 3 weeks ago #644231 by Anonymous
We reconfigured our screening criteria more in line with what your question is.  We weigh income less than we did a few years ago and favor credit score.  Although a minimum income is still necessary for our predominantly Class B rentals.   The thought here is that a history of making good budgetary choices and demonstrating proper financial discipline is more important than having a higher income.  That said, we also do not want to put people in a position where 50% of their income is going to housing, so we have a 40% threshold.  
2 months 3 weeks ago #644231 by Anonymous