Hey!
I need this smart group's input on a BIG debate.
Are Property Managers considered mandated reporters?
I say yes....what say you?
No arguing please, just weigh in if you have a thought on this
Guest InsiderEthics and employment perimeters are not one in the same. As PM's we are required to protect the asset, NOT the people. That being said, if reporting is anonymous why are we even asking the question. Right is right and wrong is wrong, which should have nothing to do with our jobs. If I am reporting you, I'm not telling anyone I did it. as well as make sure to remind the people I'm reporting to that it is anonymous.
Miles ScruggsActually there are laws in many jurisdictions that require you to provide some protection to people. Obviously outside the scope of this discussion but that was a bit overly broad statement to say we don’t have any obligation for the care of tenants.
Jennifer CocoI agree to a point. People are crazy and sometimes reporting can be dangerous for the reporter. I have called CPS and APS on residents before, but can't give my information. I have helped police investigations. I am absolutely going to put the asset into consideration, but people come first. I can't sit by and not speak up when I know someone is being hurt.
Angel RogersJames Austin Shannon i think that too...we are multistate and looking for some consistency. Thanks!
Juan Carlos SuarezI assume by Mandated reporting you mean a crime, abuse etc…If I am going to report something I better make damn sure I know ALL the facts…. And not just one sided perceived opinions… Reporting wrongly can destroy lives.
Guest InsiderJuan Carlos Suarez being "unsure" and not reporting cam also destroy lives...
Juan Carlos SuarezI guess it depends on what side of the gray area you want to fall on. I’ve seen too many wrongfully accused by those that jump to conclusions. All I ask that one be smart and not rash.
Guest InsiderOn an affordable housing property you could spend a large part of your time being a “mandated reporter”.
Guest InsiderNo. Unless you have a certification that specifically says you are… no.
Kathy VanceNot likely legally mandated like teachers, doctors, etc.. BUT, not reporting raises two concerns for me. 1. Why would we not do the right thing, as noted by others, and speak up to protect an innocent person being harmed?2. Could there be any risk of liability if we have knowledge and do nothing?
Guest InsiderNot mandated, but would definitely not turn my back. Last thing I want is a call in the middle of the night or anytime, that a child has been seriously hurt and I knew about it. You do it anonymous as some companies say not to call. No one has to know and better safe than sorry.
Guest InsiderNo. I’m sure certain states may say otherwise. That said, I’ll snitch on everyone! Especially if I see a child mistreated, or domestic violence, etc. I’ll be the first to call. Not today satan!
Miles ScruggsHow is this a debate much less a BIG one? Mandatory reporter is a term defined by your local jurisdiction. They also clearly define what roles are, it isn’t up to the random whimsical opinions of some property managers. Unless you are going to arbitrarily and capriciously redefine an already well defined term then it isn’t up for debate at all. Now should you make a report when you have concern? Well that is a personal decision and a property manager is no different than a Walmart greeter in that respect.
Guest InsiderMiles Scruggs You’ve always got great feed back/responses
Guest InsiderIn the state of Wyoming “all adults are mandated reporters” is what I was told by the police.
Guest InsiderI was a little shocked but I honestly would anonymously report anyway so I can sleep at night. I usually recommend my complaining tenant make the call but if they don’t and I think it’s warranted, I wouldn’t hesitate
Sylvia WalkerI think everyone should be mandated reporter if a child is in danger
Guest InsiderNot mandated however if I see something that puts another humans life at risk and I have facts to support it I am saying something. It goes back to ethics and who you are as a person. As PMs we are not legally held to a reporting standard. However, if we want the best for humans in this world then we need to say something. Our job is to run the asset and protect it. But I feel like reporting is protecting the asset, because we really don’t need or want the un reported issues on our properties.
Aleisha ParongaoI've asked my legal team in 3 different states I've worked in and the answer I got was; "Legally a pm is not a mandated reporter. However, there is also not a law in place that says that as a pm, you cannot report a crime or suspected crime as a concerned citizen. With that said, the best way to phrase a reporting is 'I believe xyz is happening and this is what I've seen/ heard/ witnessed' and if you're not comfortable giving your name for fear of repercussion from the resident or your company, don't". Personally, my ethics do not allow me to stand by and not report abuse or a crime. And only once, I left my name out - because of the company I worked for.
Angel RogersAleisha Parongao I sincerely appreciate your input. This is how I feel as well, but as affordable housing providers we have social services so it can get muddy. Thank you!
Aleisha ParongaoAngel Rogers you're welcome! And for affordable housing.... there's always anonymous reporting to get the ball rolling.
Guest InsiderGo with your gut. Never turn your back on it. I never did.
Stefanie KosloskyI unfortunately had to do be when I worked on site. It is hard, but you are a human being and if you see something wrong, go with your gut.
Guest InsiderIn senior living in California we were mandated reporters. And goodness knows we should have been!
Guest InsiderI oversee Affordable Housing and we have this statement in all of our job descriptions.
As a mandated reporter, follow all procedures outlined in agency policies and procedures to report to the proper agency when there is suspicion and/or confirmation that a child or adult has been a victim of abuse or neglect .
While I understand that we protect the asset, but if abuse is happening it most likely is affecting our assets. We are all responsible to provide a safe place to live to our residents.
Guest InsiderI believe we are obligated to report anything that creates a threat, danger, pending security problem, etc. (I believer we all know the score.) However, if the topic extends beyond the realm of management authority I think it should not be reported. They said, they heard, they repeated is a recipe for misinterpreted information.
Guest InsiderYou can only report allegations, the police or social service will perform an investigation and only take action if they find it necessary. Not reporting something because of uncertainty reduces the chances of someone getting the help they need.
As a mandated reporter, follow all procedures outlined in agency policies and procedures to report to the proper agency when there is suspicion and/or confirmation that a child or adult has been a victim of abuse or neglect .
While I understand that we protect the asset, but if abuse is happening it most likely is affecting our assets. We are all responsible to provide a safe place to live to our residents.