Should property developers start looking at moving away from amenities and social spaces and start focusing on in home entertainment features?

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4 years 7 months ago #37787 by Dustin Nelson
I’m beginning to think that property developers should start looking at moving away from amenities and social spaces and start focusing on in home entertainment features such as built-in television sets with gaming systems, grander kitchens and spa-like bathrooms, home game packages, media centers, home WiFi, smart home functions and items that ease the pain of social distancing. Also, consider creating a virtual leasing office where leasing agents and managers communicate through FaceTime software and items are issued remotely. Self guided tours that have been enhanced with directions and with key card control doors like hotels offer with expiration dates of door cards and have those cards covered in advertising material/collateral as a tangible takeaway. Hotels do it. We should give a crack.
4 years 7 months ago #37787 by Dustin Nelson
Tyler Mazdra
4 years 7 months ago #37788 by Tyler Mazdra
Not sure about doing away with amenities, but I 100% agree with this!
4 years 7 months ago #37788 by Tyler Mazdra
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4 years 7 months ago #37789 by Dustin Nelson
4 years 7 months ago #37789 by Dustin Nelson
Tyler Mazdra
4 years 7 months ago #37790 by Tyler Mazdra
Dustin Nelson yes! Like cabanas 10 feet apart, and a pool with fountains separating people. I like the thought!
4 years 7 months ago #37790 by Tyler Mazdra
Megan Goodmundson
4 years 7 months ago #37791 by Megan Goodmundson
You’re not going to find underwritinng financiers willing to fund those kind of electronic amenities in each unit (or even in just some units). Locks and tstats maybe but not home theater electronics or game systems or whatever. Can you inagine the work orders and how would you determine resident caused damage? If its in the apartment it is partof the rent so lets say the game system goes down. Who is gonna fix it? And now you’re giving a concession off the rent.
Fitness centers and pools are all easily funded in the development costs and construction costs and are depreciable items from the accounting side of the equation.
4 years 7 months ago #37791 by Megan Goodmundson
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4 years 7 months ago #37792 by Dustin Nelson
Megan Goodmundson you may want to take a look at Nevada West (Westcorp) . They are already doing it. Have been since 2012.
4 years 7 months ago #37792 by Dustin Nelson
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4 years 7 months ago #37793 by Dustin Nelson
4 years 7 months ago #37793 by Dustin Nelson
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4 years 7 months ago #37794 by Dustin Nelson
Anything can be modified for durable use. I’ve been in the industry 20 years. I’ve seen it all.
4 years 7 months ago #37794 by Dustin Nelson
Megan Goodmundson
4 years 7 months ago #37795 by Megan Goodmundson
Dustin Nelson offered as an up charge or optional add on is very different than standard in the development/construction costs
4 years 7 months ago #37795 by Megan Goodmundson
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4 years 7 months ago #37796 by Dustin Nelson
They’ve also offered other items like vitamin infused showers, built in sleep lighting, Cox Homelife security and cameras and integrated wall mounted smart sleep systems that play spa sounds, nature sounds and more.
4 years 7 months ago #37796 by Dustin Nelson
Garcia JFlow
4 years 7 months ago #37797 by Garcia JFlow
Megan Goodmundson you have to roll with new trends, and instead of thinking negative about it. Remember, we are now in the Millennium era, and a lot of people who are closed minded or not willing to change with the trends/ideas, the individual simply will have a hard time finding a job.
I've had managers tell me that they don't want to hire "older age, anyone over the age of 40" This is the reality we are shifting to a new world.
I am not attacking you, but just trying to let you see the other side of it. It's true.
4 years 7 months ago #37797 by Garcia JFlow
Megan Goodmundson
4 years 7 months ago #37798 by Megan Goodmundson
Garcia JFlow i'm so sorry you have come across managers who are willing to discriminate based on age. you'd think with all the fair housing training we get in this industry, they would be more informed and less willing to be discriminatory.
4 years 7 months ago #37798 by Megan Goodmundson
David Doyle
4 years 7 months ago #37799 by David Doyle
Ive been in multifamily development marketing for years... I agree, less emphasis on amenities beyond a nice pool and gym... renters have wanted larger units, bigger closets, larger bathrooms and technology advanced apts for a while now. Personal Electronics become dated quickly, so best to have the latest hook-ups , app controlled temp, cameras, locks, etc, and let residents provide their own personal devices. ????
4 years 7 months ago #37799 by David Doyle
Marie Compton
4 years 7 months ago #37800 by Marie Compton
David Doyle thats what i was gonna say.
Upgrading the gaming systems and such is a no from me, but a new smart tv every 3 or 4 yrs wouldn't be bad, and the sound system would be cool!
4 years 7 months ago #37800 by Marie Compton
Ryan McCoy
4 years 7 months ago #37801 by Ryan McCoy
I agree with increasing in-unit amenities but the last thing we need is to provide things that encourage people to limit interaction with one another. Social distancing is not a new reality or a new way of living; it is temporary. Personally I cannot wait to open the doors to our leasing office and start interacting with my residents again. Can you imagine a world where we aren’t creating public spaces for people to gather and interact? Talk about virtual reality.
4 years 7 months ago #37801 by Ryan McCoy
Anonymous
4 years 7 months ago #37802 by Anonymous
We have started using Teams as part of our offices. It works like Zoom but you can share documents and computer screens.
4 years 7 months ago #37802 by Anonymous
Ashley Gray
4 years 7 months ago #37803 by Ashley Gray
Certain amenities aren’t going away. Fitness isn’t going anywhere, and Fitness Centers are the in the top three of what renters are looking at.
4 years 7 months ago #37803 by Ashley Gray
Ashley Gray
4 years 7 months ago #37804 by Ashley Gray
It will just be different. I am on it and looking to publish something to this site about how to open your Fitness Centers back up when it is allowed!
4 years 7 months ago #37804 by Ashley Gray
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4 years 7 months ago #37805 by Dustin Nelson
For anyone who thinks that this isn’t a cost effective idea, Just keep in mind that microwaves were also thought of the same way during their infancy and now they are standard in almost every apartment home. It’s how you implement the hardware that matters. Also you can get a decent size smart television set for around 250 bucks these days.
4 years 7 months ago #37805 by Dustin Nelson
Kelly Martin
4 years 7 months ago #37806 by Kelly Martin
Me too. This “pandemic” shouldn’t effect how properties are developed IMO
4 years 7 months ago #37806 by Kelly Martin
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4 years 7 months ago #37807 by Dustin Nelson
Kelly Martin And that’s your right. But I know my residents and they are stuck at home. The pool and gym are useless to them. And quite frankly, they don’t get as much use as they could. I’ve rented more homes with smart home packages ever did for a gym.I wouldn’t remove all outdoor spaces but I would have some alternative in place like multiple cabanas and a lot of them. More barbecues. Places where people can isolate.
4 years 7 months ago #37807 by Dustin Nelson
Kelly Martin
4 years 7 months ago #37808 by Kelly Martin
Dustin Nelson so you’re saying we should design communities for the exception (this Covid mess) and not the rule (the other 99.9% of the time)?
4 years 7 months ago #37808 by Kelly Martin
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4 years 7 months ago #37809 by Dustin Nelson
This instance has shed light on some thing I’ve been saying for years. Focus more on the homes where people actually live. People don’t live in the amenities.
4 years 7 months ago #37809 by Dustin Nelson
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4 years 7 months ago #37810 by Dustin Nelson
I know for example that I didn’t use the pool or common spaces when I lived at an apartment community because I don’t like to share my space or be around other people all the time. I’m around them all day so I want to be somewhat isolated when I’m at home.
4 years 7 months ago #37810 by Dustin Nelson
Kelly Martin
4 years 7 months ago #37811 by Kelly Martin
Dustin Nelson ok.
I’d love to see deal built with a small pool, small gym and tons of open space for distancing and cabanas.
Not really.
4 years 7 months ago #37811 by Kelly Martin
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4 years 7 months ago #37812 by Dustin Nelson
Kelly Martin of course you wouldn’t. You’re a general contractor and that would take away from your business platform. As for me, I’ve lived in a high-rise buildings without any of these amenities for that exact purpose. I’ve been in multi family 20 years and I know what I’ve seen
4 years 7 months ago #37812 by Dustin Nelson
Kelly Martin
4 years 7 months ago #37813 by Kelly Martin
Dustin Nelson my point was your changes suggested likely aren’t supported by the needed demand for such drastic changes.
But you’re the expert.
4 years 7 months ago #37813 by Kelly Martin