How are you all phrasing the rule: "No Unsupervised Children" in a non-liable, fair housing friendly way?

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4 years 7 months ago #38389 by Juan Carlos Suarez
Gyms....

With everyone homeschooling, how are you all phrasing the rule:

"No Unsupervised Children"

In a non-liable, fair housing friendly way!!!
4 years 7 months ago #38389 by Juan Carlos Suarez
Katie Ross Lytle
4 years 7 months ago #38390 by Katie Ross Lytle
Amenities are reserved for leaseholders only
4 years 7 months ago #38390 by Katie Ross Lytle
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4 years 7 months ago #38391 by Juan Carlos Suarez
Thanks!. You mean that minors are occupants vs lease holders? that would be kind of hard to explain in a sign...
4 years 7 months ago #38391 by Juan Carlos Suarez
Kaitlyn Hesse
4 years 7 months ago #38392 by Kaitlyn Hesse
Any persons under the age of X must be accompanied by a parent or guardian at all times.
4 years 7 months ago #38392 by Kaitlyn Hesse
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4 years 7 months ago #38393 by Juan Carlos Suarez
I heard that ran afoul of fair housing... age discrimination...
4 years 7 months ago #38393 by Juan Carlos Suarez
Monique Lawson
4 years 7 months ago #38394 by Monique Lawson
Juan Carlos Suarez it gets treated like how the pool is. It’s a safety issue and it’s standard to require supervision for machines.
4 years 7 months ago #38394 by Monique Lawson
Autumn McMillan
4 years 7 months ago #38395 by Autumn McMillan
Only when you use the word "must" change that to "should be
4 years 7 months ago #38395 by Autumn McMillan
Kaitlyn Hesse
4 years 7 months ago #38396 by Kaitlyn Hesse
Juan Carlos Suarez oh interesting. I figured since those machines have age requirements it would be okay.
4 years 7 months ago #38396 by Kaitlyn Hesse
Autumn McMillan
4 years 7 months ago #38397 by Autumn McMillan
You can always say "persons under the age of blank should not blank"
4 years 7 months ago #38397 by Autumn McMillan
Christopher Fluegge
4 years 7 months ago #38398 by Christopher Fluegge
What does homeschooling have to do with gym facility rules? Is your gym normally only open during school hours?
4 years 7 months ago #38398 by Christopher Fluegge
Anonymous
4 years 7 months ago #38399 by Anonymous
4 years 7 months ago #38399 by Anonymous
Christopher Fluegge
4 years 7 months ago #38400 by Christopher Fluegge
Juan Carlos Suarez .... So the kids were never on the rental property before homeschooling started? You never had gym rules posted previously or.....?
I'm just confused with what people suddenly homeschooling has to do with gym rules ????
4 years 7 months ago #38400 by Christopher Fluegge
Anonymous
4 years 7 months ago #38401 by Anonymous
Christopher Fluegge Let me De-Confuse you. Prior to this the kids had more Off-Property activities and it balanced out and had a rhythm. For the foreseeable future they will be in-property 100%. Plus they have been cooped up inside their apts over 2 months and all amenities closed or severely limited. We open Pool Next week and the Gym after that. We are just preparing the right wordage to deal with the wave or pent-up youthful energy that may come, or not. Yes we have existing rules and wordage. I am only looking if anyone has a better wording that fits this situation, in a more fun, friendly and fair-housing-safe way, for our opening announcements.
4 years 7 months ago #38401 by Anonymous
Amy Sexton Horsley
4 years 7 months ago #38402 by Amy Sexton Horsley
No residents under the age of 14 or whatever. Your gym is open?
4 years 7 months ago #38402 by Amy Sexton Horsley
Anonymous
4 years 7 months ago #38403 by Anonymous
4 years 7 months ago #38403 by Anonymous
Adrianne Luper
4 years 7 months ago #38404 by Adrianne Luper
Yes we have an age limit for the gym that simply says “no persons under the age of 18 permitted without parent/guardian.”
4 years 7 months ago #38404 by Adrianne Luper
Megan Goodmundson
4 years 7 months ago #38405 by Megan Goodmundson
Wasn’t there restrictions on unsupervised children even prior to the homeschooling?
4 years 7 months ago #38405 by Megan Goodmundson
Anonymous
4 years 7 months ago #38406 by Anonymous
Yes we did...and we complied when we drew them up a few years back, but we are just revising because as we open amenities, and we may have to stress the kids (minors under age of x) in machines/pool issue...
4 years 7 months ago #38406 by Anonymous
Christine Allen
4 years 7 months ago #38407 by Christine Allen
So how you all dealing wjth residents calling to report other residents having corona, but everyone has seperate entrances? Also, resident feels I should tell them no to come outside
4 years 7 months ago #38407 by Christine Allen
Christine Allen
4 years 7 months ago #38408 by Christine Allen
I mentioned social distance and taking precautions, but do not believe we even have a right to say a person cannot be outside.
4 years 7 months ago #38408 by Christine Allen
Ahna Resendez
4 years 7 months ago #38409 by Ahna Resendez
Addressing it as no one under X age without an adult or adult resident is the way to go. Mentioning the word "children" in rules, especially posted ones could be a fair housing issue if someone perceives it to be discriminatory
4 years 7 months ago #38409 by Ahna Resendez
Susan Weston
4 years 7 months ago #38410 by Susan Weston
Be careful about banning kiddos, approaching fair housing ice.
4 years 7 months ago #38410 by Susan Weston
Anonymous
4 years 7 months ago #38411 by Anonymous
Susan Weston right. It’s just the unsupervised part that needs to be addressed!
4 years 7 months ago #38411 by Anonymous
Libby Spencer
4 years 7 months ago #38412 by Libby Spencer
Our attorney said to say occupant instead of children. Please make sure all occupants are supervised by a leaseholder. He stated saying anyone under the age of -- is also discriminatory
4 years 7 months ago #38412 by Libby Spencer
Anonymous
4 years 7 months ago #38413 by Anonymous
Libby Spencer that’s what I had heard also.
4 years 7 months ago #38413 by Anonymous
Chris Finetto
4 years 7 months ago #38414 by Chris Finetto
“We provide lovely and wonderful housing with luxury amenities. We do not however provide parenting...”
4 years 7 months ago #38414 by Chris Finetto
Anonymous
4 years 7 months ago #38415 by Anonymous
4 years 7 months ago #38415 by Anonymous
Greg N Caela Mitchell
4 years 7 months ago #38416 by Greg N Caela Mitchell
Chris Finetto if only...lol
4 years 7 months ago #38416 by Greg N Caela Mitchell
Heather Hawpe
4 years 7 months ago #38417 by Heather Hawpe
All minors under the age of 16 must be accompanied by an adult.
4 years 7 months ago #38417 by Heather Hawpe
Heather Hawpe
4 years 7 months ago #38418 by Heather Hawpe
Or "No Minors under the age of 16 allowed in the fitness center, unless accompanied by a parent or guardian."
4 years 7 months ago #38418 by Heather Hawpe
Babbie Miley Jaco
4 years 7 months ago #38419 by Babbie Miley Jaco
If you don’t want a lawsuit - don’t do this. Fitness equipment comes with the manufacturers recommended use which includes age limitations. Post the rules based on data- what does the manufacturer recommend.
4 years 7 months ago #38419 by Babbie Miley Jaco
Laurie Ann
4 years 7 months ago #38420 by Laurie Ann
It is recommended that children be accompanied by an adult.
4 years 7 months ago #38420 by Laurie Ann
Doug Chasick
4 years 7 months ago #38421 by Doug Chasick
"Persons under the age of 16 must be accompanied by a parent, guardian or someone designated by their parent or guardian" is the place to start. Generally speaking, HUD now considers 16 (instead of 18) as "safe harbor" (meaning you're probably OK using that age). Just restricting the supervisory role to a parent or guardian can be seen as restrictive so allow a supervisor designated by the parent or guardian. Whenever possible, use any guidelines furnished by the equipment manufacturer if it calls for a younger age needing supervision. Also, check with local ordinances to see if unsupervised persons of a younger age are permitted. Stay away from any word other than "person" to designate a human of any age. Hope this helps!
4 years 7 months ago #38421 by Doug Chasick