Now illegal to refuse to show or rent to people with certain criminal records?

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Joanna Para - Lewkowicz
5 years 7 months ago #27808 by Joanna Para - Lewkowicz
So this was just announced in my county. Anyone else have that ordinance?

www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politi...-20190425-story.html
5 years 7 months ago #27808 by Joanna Para - Lewkowicz
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Jeff Pancone
5 years 7 months ago #27809 by Jeff Pancone
Not yet but give the idiots time, they’ll be coming to a town near you soon!!!
5 years 7 months ago #27809 by Jeff Pancone
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Jay Koster
5 years 7 months ago #27810 by Jay Koster
Here in Seattle, we've had a ban on criminal screening for a while now. I haven't had any issues as a result, nor have I seen any (but that just means they're not well-publicized).
5 years 7 months ago #27810 by Jay Koster
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Brenda Andrews Sherrill
5 years 7 months ago #27811 by Brenda Andrews Sherrill
Jay Koster so, you do zero screenings? Not even for violent felonies or sex offenders?
5 years 7 months ago #27811 by Brenda Andrews Sherrill
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Jay Koster
5 years 7 months ago #27812 by Jay Koster
When and how can a landlord use a criminal background check?
Unless there is an exclusion, neither landlords nor any person may run criminal background checks. Examples of “any person” include, but are not limited to: property managers, owners,
screening companies, etc. Landlords or any person can adopt screening policies that are more generous to prospective occupants and tenants than the law allows. For instance, a property management company may have a policy of not reviewing sex offender registries. Review of registry information for an individual listed on a sex offender registry is allowed. The
practice must be written on the application to meet the requirements of Fair Chance Housing.
Before a landlord or any person rejects an applicant or takes an adverse action against a prospective occupant or tenant based on registry information, there must be a legitimate business reason for doing so.
5 years 7 months ago #27812 by Jay Koster
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Jay Koster
5 years 7 months ago #27813 by Jay Koster
Short answer is that no, we don't. But we can cite certain exemptions for business reasons if they are on the registry.
5 years 7 months ago #27813 by Jay Koster
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Jessica Gonzalez
5 years 7 months ago #27814 by Jessica Gonzalez
But how does one know ? Do you screen them before you show them a unit? Sorry I just don’t get it. I’m in Texas
5 years 7 months ago #27814 by Jessica Gonzalez
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Crystal Theis
5 years 7 months ago #27815 by Crystal Theis
if a prospect walks in and says they’ve got felonies you just can’t dismiss them or tell them they wouldn’t qualify. It’s prequalification.
5 years 7 months ago #27815 by Crystal Theis
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Jessica Gonzalez
5 years 7 months ago #27816 by Jessica Gonzalez
Crystal Theis but it says that you can’t refuse to show if they have one ...
most do not say upfront what they have
5 years 7 months ago #27816 by Jessica Gonzalez
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Crystal Theis
5 years 7 months ago #27817 by Crystal Theis
Jessica Gonzalez you won’t refuse if they don’t disclose... It means you can’t make the choice. That’s all. Kinda silly.
5 years 7 months ago #27817 by Crystal Theis
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Jessica Gonzalez
5 years 7 months ago #27818 by Jessica Gonzalez
Crystal Theis yes I agree
Most of the time ppl will come in ask about leasing info I give it to them and always offer a tour (even if it’s not ready I still let them see the community. Usually if they have bad stuff on them they pretty much feel guilty and spill the beans
Or they just don’t come back
But yes I feel it’s silly too
5 years 7 months ago #27818 by Jessica Gonzalez
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Sally Henkel
5 years 7 months ago #27819 by Sally Henkel
Jessica Gonzalez it said “show or rent” to a person with a criminal background.
5 years 7 months ago #27819 by Sally Henkel
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Nicolas Ciobanu
5 years 7 months ago #27820 by Nicolas Ciobanu
...can-o-worms?
5 years 7 months ago #27820 by Nicolas Ciobanu
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Nicole Konkel
5 years 7 months ago #27821 by Nicole Konkel
On a showing, how do you even know their criminal record?
5 years 7 months ago #27821 by Nicole Konkel
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Jina Vaughn
5 years 7 months ago #27822 by Jina Vaughn
This is called disperate impact and HUD is pushing the idea nation wide. While not a law where I live, my company takes the matter seriously and we speak accordingly when someone asks about criminal background checks. All are encouraged to tour and apply. If denied for criminal, they may appeal and we have our attorney give a recommendation.
5 years 7 months ago #27822 by Jina Vaughn
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Ronny Deann Stephens
5 years 7 months ago #27823 by Ronny Deann Stephens
This is interesting because...do you run a background check before showing a model or unit?
5 years 7 months ago #27823 by Ronny Deann Stephens
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Anonymous
5 years 7 months ago #27824 by Anonymous
I find it interesting that the County President is quoted saying: “If the ordinance is properly implemented, no landlord, neighbor or fellow resident will be unnecessarily exposed to any risk or harm.”
As multifamily property managers, we certainly can’t guarantee safety and security (even when we’re denying applicants based on criminal background), so how can she?
5 years 7 months ago #27824 by Anonymous
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Brian Moore
5 years 7 months ago #27825 by Brian Moore
It’s about time. Finding decent housing is a major issue when someone gets released. They can serve all their time and be rehabilitated in the eyes of the law, but society thinks that once a criminal, always a criminal. Sometimes that’s just not true. I think the spirit of the ordinance is very good, and a case-by-case basis is a great start. If they have a job and can pay their rent, their money is just as green as anyone else’s.
5 years 7 months ago #27825 by Brian Moore
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Holly Henderson Stuckey
5 years 7 months ago #27826 by Holly Henderson Stuckey
Brian Moore, would you live next to a felon?
5 years 7 months ago #27826 by Holly Henderson Stuckey
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Brian Moore
5 years 7 months ago #27827 by Brian Moore
Yes, and I have. I still do actually. Some of the nicest and hardest working people I’ve met are felons. With the disproportionate population in prison in our country vs the rest of the world, chances are we all live next to felons within a 4 homes radius.
5 years 7 months ago #27827 by Brian Moore
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Bernadette Bush
5 years 7 months ago #27828 by Bernadette Bush
A little insight on “felons” my dad is considered a felon. He did some things in his 20’s. No one was hurt but he’s a completely different family man in his 60’s. He wouldn’t be able to rent and you would be afraid to live next to him? One of my younger brothers was college aged and he and his friend had too much to drink and went into the house of someone who didn’t want them there. They stole nothing and were not there with the intent to steal anything yet the simple act of going in had him charged with burglary. He was in a very strict county and actually did jail time with no prior and nothing since then. He is considered a felon. You’d be afraid to live next to him? I 1,000,000% believe in this change! It is about time.
5 years 7 months ago #27828 by Bernadette Bush
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Amanda Truax
5 years 7 months ago #27829 by Amanda Truax
Unfortunately, right or wrong, case-by-case basis opens a very large exposure to fair housing liability. When you consider the personal consequences - beyond the corporate consequences - of a fair housing violation, even when committed unintended, the possible negative impact of this ruling is very concerning.
5 years 7 months ago #27829 by Amanda Truax
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Holly Henderson Stuckey
5 years 7 months ago #27830 by Holly Henderson Stuckey
I have seen this coming for a long time, not just in Chicago. It won't be long before we will be forced to live next to felons.
5 years 7 months ago #27830 by Holly Henderson Stuckey
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Brian Moore
5 years 7 months ago #27831 by Brian Moore
Holly Henderson Stuckey You won’t be forced to live next to felons. Felons will be ALLOWED to live like normal people.
5 years 7 months ago #27831 by Brian Moore
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Chris Finetto
5 years 7 months ago #27832 by Chris Finetto
Bet ya $100 bucks she does not live in an apartment....
5 years 7 months ago #27832 by Chris Finetto
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Kathy A Thompson-Porter
5 years 7 months ago #27833 by Kathy A Thompson-Porter
There are many felons that are non-violent and/or committed their felonies a long time ago and cannot find housing. I think there are circumstances where you should absolutely deny them, but to deny someone because they have a felony DWI or even a felony from 20+ years ago is ridiculous.
I once had to ask a convicted murderer to move out because he was “mistakenly” allowed to move in and we were selling the community. They didn’t want his lease to be an issue. He was 45, did it when he was 18 and stupid. Spent his time in prison, had a child, a great job and not so much as a parking ticket since he got out. He was a great resident. I felt horrible.
Repeat offenders and sexual predators should be an auto denial though.
5 years 7 months ago #27833 by Kathy A Thompson-Porter
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Shanna McFaddin
5 years 7 months ago #27834 by Shanna McFaddin
In California: Yes. If it is a law affecting property rights, it probably started here. (And so far, I haven't seen a negative issue arise due to renting to someone with a felony.)
5 years 7 months ago #27834 by Shanna McFaddin
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Sarah Jackson
5 years 7 months ago #27835 by Sarah Jackson
Showing is weird because how do you know? However, in Missouri all criminal things that show up have to be “discussed” before a decline...it’s a gray area
5 years 7 months ago #27835 by Sarah Jackson
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Ed Kirch
5 years 7 months ago #28118 by Ed Kirch
Here in Aurora Il they require us to run criminal back ground checks on all tenants and require to see them once a year
5 years 7 months ago #28118 by Ed Kirch
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Anonymous
5 years 7 months ago #28210 by Anonymous
Everyone should be invited to view an apartment and fill out an application regardless of what they tell you about their criminal past.
I show, invite them to fill out the app, go through our screening criteria and have them sign, collect my app fee and do my thing. In Madison, we do not look at arrest records, just convictions. There are certain crimes that you cannot hold against a person at all, then there are others that you have to place a reasonable timeframe on. Criminal records is an area where discrimination can come into play bigtime. You need to have a clear cut select criteria and if possible, a second reviewer or preloaded software screening with your criteria built into take the bias out.
5 years 7 months ago #28210 by Anonymous