What do you do when you find out a tenant was self-pleasuring on their balcony?

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Glenda Fox
5 years 3 months ago #31185 by Glenda Fox
It was recently brought to our attention that a tenant was self-pleasuring on their balcony, and was not quiet in doing so. We are drawing a blank on what to even say in a letter to this resident. ????‍♀️ Please help!
5 years 3 months ago #31185 by Glenda Fox
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Sarah Trefz Watson
5 years 3 months ago #31186 by Sarah Trefz Watson
I would in all seriousness go with the "disturbing the peaceful enjoyment of other residents" or some such clause in the lease, however yours is worded. That way you can cover it delicately and if they want to discuss it they can come to the office in private.
5 years 3 months ago #31186 by Sarah Trefz Watson
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Glenda Fox
5 years 3 months ago #31187 by Glenda Fox
5 years 3 months ago #31187 by Glenda Fox
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Amy Sexton Horsley
5 years 3 months ago #31188 by Amy Sexton Horsley
Sarah Trefz Watson just realize quiet enjoyment is a legal term of uninterrupted residency. It doesnt actually mean peaceful. I would point out that it's also an illegal act to do in public, and they can be charged with indecent exposure.
5 years 3 months ago #31188 by Amy Sexton Horsley
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Sarah Trefz Watson
5 years 3 months ago #31189 by Sarah Trefz Watson
Amy Sexton Horsley yes...but I wouldn't go that far the first time.
5 years 3 months ago #31189 by Sarah Trefz Watson
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Joe Jefferson
5 years 3 months ago #31190 by Joe Jefferson
Amy Sexton Horsley, actually if anyone can see them, it would be a sex crime. If kids see it, worse. Then they would be a registered sex offender.
5 years 3 months ago #31190 by Joe Jefferson
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Amy Sexton Horsley
5 years 3 months ago #31191 by Amy Sexton Horsley
Oh man I'd put the kabosh on that instantly. I mean who really thinks its ok to masturbate in public?
5 years 3 months ago #31191 by Amy Sexton Horsley
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Brenda Summers Davis
5 years 3 months ago #31192 by Brenda Summers Davis
Be very careful with “hear say”. Did you see it can you prove it in the court of law? This should always be the question you ask yourself before any letter goes out accusing someone of even disturbing the peace and comfort of others. Not sure what state you are in but you might want to let the authorities handle this one
5 years 3 months ago #31192 by Brenda Summers Davis
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Kathi Blatz
5 years 3 months ago #31193 by Kathi Blatz
i had a residents adult son relieve himself at the front door all over the glass. I found out from a neighbor (non resident) who saw it. I spoke to the dad privately. In our case, we had it on video but I didn't watch the whole thing. the son has special needs and although it wasn't ideal, I was very professional and respectful. Definitely tread lightly with hear say. I always try to verify before I approach someone.
5 years 3 months ago #31193 by Kathi Blatz
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Brenda Andrews Sherrill
5 years 3 months ago #31194 by Brenda Andrews Sherrill
Brenda Summers Davis most noise complaints are hear-say so how do you handle any other type complaint regarding noise?
5 years 3 months ago #31194 by Brenda Andrews Sherrill
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Brenda Summers Davis
5 years 3 months ago #31195 by Brenda Summers Davis
Brenda Andrews Sherrill do you have a courtesy officer? We would require them to call during the event so that we can verify it’s unreasonable. Too many times when neighbors are no longer getting along you can unknowingly get wrapped up in their personal issues. If it’s a true noice issue they actually should be calling the police-then you have the police report to use as your needed back up. Or most times a simple generic notice to the whole building stating you’ve received several notice complaints, etc, etc. will cure the issue. We all have whiners that “everything” is too loud for them & sometimes you have to prove to them that this is apartment life-they all must be understanding of everyone’s differences
5 years 3 months ago #31195 by Brenda Summers Davis
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Tiffany Arick
5 years 3 months ago #31196 by Tiffany Arick
I always like to approach these types of situations as if the resident mistakenly thought they were not able to be seen. Because at this point it very well may have been the case. Not likely, but maybe.
After I have that conversation and document it... if it happens again there is clearly intent or disregard from others there and you can move forward with the legal process.
But whenever I’ve had this (sex, undressing in front of open blinds) once they are confronted with it they stop.
With any complaints (unless flagrant lease violations) I typically try to give the resident the benefit of the doubt.
5 years 3 months ago #31196 by Tiffany Arick
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Nancy Alex
5 years 3 months ago #31197 by Nancy Alex
Allegedly is always a good word to use in this case.
5 years 3 months ago #31197 by Nancy Alex
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Joe Jefferson
5 years 3 months ago #31198 by Joe Jefferson
I’d tell the resident to video (if possible) and call the police when it happens.
5 years 3 months ago #31198 by Joe Jefferson
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Krista Honey
5 years 3 months ago #31199 by Krista Honey
That is illegal. If neighbors are witnessing someone breaking a law, I would advise them to call the police if something like that happens. Then, with a police report you would be able to handle things from your end.
5 years 3 months ago #31199 by Krista Honey
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Sarah Trefz Watson
5 years 3 months ago #31200 by Sarah Trefz Watson
I would still approach the situation delicately just for the customer service angle, AND the fact that people forget they're in "public" if they are on their own balcony minding their own business, whatever that business may be. A gentle reminder could go a long way. No need to terminate or get the authorities involved for a situation that they probably thought was private.
5 years 3 months ago #31200 by Sarah Trefz Watson
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Myra Defoe
5 years 3 months ago #31201 by Myra Defoe
I am sorry but my advice would be if you are truly seeing this happen report it to the authorities.. Thus is not ok and no way any reasonable person thinks they are in private being outside on a balcony...
5 years 3 months ago #31201 by Myra Defoe
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Kayla Cestarte
5 years 3 months ago #31202 by Kayla Cestarte
Disturbance, disturbing others, loud or obnoxious behavior, excessive noise, for the lease violation options. I would put “it has been brought to our attention that you have been participating in particular activities that are considered a disturbance to others. Unfortunately this cannot be conducted at anytime outside of your unit, including the patio. We appreciate your immediate attention to this matter. Please contact us if you have any questions or concerns.
5 years 3 months ago #31202 by Kayla Cestarte
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Paula Lowe
5 years 3 months ago #31203 by Paula Lowe
They have to call the cops.
5 years 3 months ago #31203 by Paula Lowe
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Don Garcia
5 years 3 months ago #31204 by Don Garcia
3 day non curable notice and follow up before something happens and you are held liable!!
5 years 3 months ago #31204 by Don Garcia
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Bill Burk
5 years 3 months ago #31205 by Bill Burk
Please refrain from engaging in any activity that may be construed is lewd or illegal in public areas or visible from public areas.
5 years 3 months ago #31205 by Bill Burk
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Penny King
5 years 3 months ago #31206 by Penny King
We had a couple on the 3rd floor having x-rated sex on their balcony one morning, I say morning because it went from 12:30am-4:30am. When I notified them, he came in to speak with me and tried to deny it, until I started playing a video one of my residents took of them. I made him promise it would never happen again, and set him on his way.
5 years 3 months ago #31206 by Penny King
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Alicia Gasser-Wilson
5 years 3 months ago #31207 by Alicia Gasser-Wilson
I would say nothing.
5 years 3 months ago #31207 by Alicia Gasser-Wilson
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Michael Andrew Graf Rasch
5 years 3 months ago - 5 years 3 months ago #31208 by Michael Andrew Graf Rasch
This is a real depend's. if it's someone you laugh with every now and then, just call them and say "get your freak on somewhere out of view" if not a friend then send a friendly hello letter reminding them that place has camera's
5 years 3 months ago - 5 years 3 months ago #31208 by Michael Andrew Graf Rasch
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Debbie Turner Gallogly
5 years 3 months ago #31209 by Debbie Turner Gallogly
I don't know why residents don't call the police for this kind of stuff?
5 years 3 months ago #31209 by Debbie Turner Gallogly
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Angie Russell
5 years 3 months ago #31210 by Angie Russell
Say “you nasty!!”
5 years 3 months ago #31210 by Angie Russell
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Kathleen Silver
5 years 3 months ago #31211 by Kathleen Silver
No letter - talk to them first - send a letter after “to summarize our conversation...”
5 years 3 months ago #31211 by Kathleen Silver
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Lawanna Dumis
5 years 3 months ago #31212 by Lawanna Dumis
I would tell my resident that happy time is a private affair and no one else wants to see or hear that crap.
5 years 3 months ago #31212 by Lawanna Dumis
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Grace Howard
5 years 3 months ago #31213 by Grace Howard
Maybe something along the lines of all sexual activity, whether solo or not, must be in the privacy of your apartment.
5 years 3 months ago #31213 by Grace Howard
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Jamie Addkison Jennings
5 years 3 months ago #31214 by Jamie Addkison Jennings
Was it visible or audible? For it to be considered lewd this person would have to have been trying to get people to see. If this person is on their private balcony and not trying to get people to watch but unaware that people can see and hear them then I would just have a conversation letting them know that they can see and hear quite well.
5 years 3 months ago #31214 by Jamie Addkison Jennings
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Kevin Keone Okuma
5 years 3 months ago #31215 by Kevin Keone Okuma
Reach out to your attorney for appropriate verbiage and how to proceed. Disgusting!
5 years 3 months ago #31215 by Kevin Keone Okuma
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Diane Van Lear
5 years 3 months ago #31216 by Diane Van Lear
Several residents have witnessed you, not so quietly, “enjoying” yourself out on your balcony. These acts are in violation of your lease, and are considered lewd and lascivious behavior. Although you may be enjoying yourself, you’re interfering with the quiet enjoyment of the other residents.
5 years 3 months ago #31216 by Diane Van Lear
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Lynn VanTonne
5 years 3 months ago #31217 by Lynn VanTonne
Knock it off ***hole or I’m calling the police. They love to bust folks like you!
5 years 3 months ago #31217 by Lynn VanTonne
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Rosemary Banks
5 years 3 months ago #31426 by Rosemary Banks
Use their signed lease as a guideline indicating to them in person and in writing they have breached their lease and will be given the proper notice to vacate the community.
5 years 3 months ago #31426 by Rosemary Banks