No longer using “Master Bedroom” – renaming to “Primary Bedroom”

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Jennifer Journi Johnson
4 years 6 months ago #39300 by Jennifer Journi Johnson
I never Iiked that word anyway. Just like we don’t say “walk in closets” or “his and hers”. I think it’s necessary. We are in a business where fair housing governs our practices.. Our intentions are not always someone else’s reality therefore anything I can do to express clarity, reduce confusion, show respect and remove any disparate impact on anyone, I don’t mind making small changes to insure my intentions of kindness and equality are received!
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4 years 6 months ago #39300 by Jennifer Journi Johnson
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Christopher Brandon King
4 years 6 months ago #39301 by Christopher Brandon King
I want to understand the reasoning behind this better.
What is the reason for the change?
4 years 6 months ago #39301 by Christopher Brandon King
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Anonymous
4 years 6 months ago #39302 by Anonymous
Christopher Brandon King , because it refers to master/slave quarters.
4 years 6 months ago #39302 by Anonymous
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Christopher Brandon King
4 years 6 months ago #39303 by Christopher Brandon King
oh! I see. I never thought of it that way
4 years 6 months ago #39303 by Christopher Brandon King
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Christopher Brandon King
4 years 6 months ago #39304 by Christopher Brandon King
Yeah, when I became an agent... I wondered why, in this heavily regulated industry focused on equality, we used the term “mother-in-law suite” to describe an area with separate kitchen, bedroom, and bathroom.
I would prefer something like “In-home Apartment”
4 years 6 months ago #39304 by Christopher Brandon King
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Mallory A Bailey
4 years 6 months ago #39305 by Mallory A Bailey
Actually I didn't think this at all. I think Master Room is a great term for families. But Primary can be a term to use when dealing with roommates. This can keep the excitement of the apartment for everyone splitting rent.
Master is not a discriminatory word.
4 years 6 months ago #39305 by Mallory A Bailey
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Jennifer Journi Johnson
4 years 6 months ago #39306 by Jennifer Journi Johnson
Focus on your product and not potentially the type of people that would live there... those are my thoughts... masters, roommates, mother in law suites, his and hers.... we just need to focus on other terms that actually represent the product and not types of people
4 years 6 months ago #39306 by Jennifer Journi Johnson
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Nichole Lipka
4 years 6 months ago #39307 by Nichole Lipka
Maintaining the status quo perpetuates inequalities and makes our growth and progress stagnant. It’s important to be continually working at being better humans.
4 years 6 months ago #39307 by Nichole Lipka
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Anonymous
4 years 6 months ago #39308 by Anonymous
I'll just note ... The term "master bedroom" does not originate in slavery, but the early 20th century trope of the largest room belonging to the master (that is, the dominant male) of the household. The problems with the term are its hierarchical and sexist connotations; the racial connotation is layered on but not its original context (the first use of the phrase came about 60 years postbellum).
I'm all for phasing it out ... Just sharing some context ;)
4 years 6 months ago #39308 by Anonymous
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Shaundra Frye
4 years 6 months ago #39309 by Shaundra Frye
Ok... I can understand the master bedroom/ his and hers reasoning. However can anyone explain how to refer to a walk in closet other than so? I understand why... just not how it should be referred to.
4 years 6 months ago #39309 by Shaundra Frye
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Jennifer Journi Johnson
4 years 6 months ago #39310 by Jennifer Journi Johnson
Spacious closet, giant sized closet, Texas size closets..
4 years 6 months ago #39310 by Jennifer Journi Johnson
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Kelly Martin
4 years 6 months ago #39311 by Kelly Martin

Better rename these automobile parts ASAP...just because...
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4 years 6 months ago #39311 by Kelly Martin
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Jess L Fischer
4 years 6 months ago #39312 by Jess L Fischer
We stopped saying "master bedroom" well over 10yrs ago. I assumed it was everywhere.
4 years 6 months ago #39312 by Jess L Fischer
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Kelly Martin
4 years 6 months ago #39313 by Kelly Martin
Next on the chopping block...Masters Degree, The Masters golf tournament, etc. etc....
4 years 6 months ago #39313 by Kelly Martin
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Dan Lukes
4 years 6 months ago #39314 by Dan Lukes
Master (as in Master, Journeyman and apprentice)
Master Sergeant & Master Chief (Chief is already on the chopping block in some states)
4 years 6 months ago #39314 by Dan Lukes
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Kelly Martin
4 years 6 months ago #39315 by Kelly Martin
Dan Lukes all of it is silly IMO.
4 years 6 months ago #39315 by Kelly Martin
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Matt Stephens
4 years 6 months ago #39316 by Matt Stephens
Kelly Martin Although it’s silly to you, the goal is to attract customers. That’s why real estate agents tell people to remove all personal photos. Now if we could get our industry to change the word “luxury,” we might can get somewhere ????
4 years 6 months ago #39316 by Matt Stephens
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Kelly Martin
4 years 6 months ago #39317 by Kelly Martin
Matt Stephens after 15 plus years building homes...I can’t think of one time...not one buyer that was turned off by the the use of master bedroom, master bath, master closet, etc etc.
4 years 6 months ago #39317 by Kelly Martin
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Heather Hawpe
4 years 6 months ago #39318 by Heather Hawpe
So I had to look it up, Theres a difference in using it as a noun and an adjective. As a noun it refers to a man who has people working for him, which maybe THEY think is why the bedroom is called a master bedroom "master of the house"? Then the adjective Master refers to someone of great skill OR "Main, principle" which also refers to the master bedroom. I think they're taking it above and beyond by changing the title of master bedroom. Maybe they're just covering all their bases so it cant be skewed the wrong way.
4 years 6 months ago #39318 by Heather Hawpe
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Arianne Horton
4 years 6 months ago #39319 by Arianne Horton
Why shouldn't you say walk in closet ??
4 years 6 months ago #39319 by Arianne Horton
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Kelly Martin
4 years 6 months ago #39320 by Kelly Martin
Arianne Horton offensive to those that can’t walk? iDK
4 years 6 months ago #39320 by Kelly Martin
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Judy Newton
4 years 6 months ago #39321 by Judy Newton
Honestly I would think of a primary bath as the shared (hall) bath! Just me.
4 years 6 months ago #39321 by Judy Newton
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Heather Hawpe
4 years 6 months ago #39322 by Heather Hawpe
So I had to look it up, Theres a difference in using it as a noun and an adjective. As a noun it refers to a man who has people working for him, which maybe THEY think is why the bedroom is called a master bedroom "master of the house"? Then the adjective Master refers to "someone of great skill" (master mechanic,etc) OR "Main, principle" which also refers to the master bedroom. I think they're taking it above and beyond by changing the title of master bedroom. Maybe they're just covering all their bases so it cant be skewed the wrong way
4 years 6 months ago #39322 by Heather Hawpe
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Anonymous
4 years 6 months ago #39323 by Anonymous
When I thought “Master Bedroom”, I always thought that it was due to having a bathroom and thus tied to where a majority of plumbing and electrical went, respectively bedroom wise. My house has three master bedrooms so it now looks like it’s three primary bedrooms. Just like you have a master key or a master lock. It’s superior over the smaller items. The more I type this explanation the more I realize that there’s a problem. ???? kudos MLS
4 years 6 months ago #39323 by Anonymous
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Megan Anne
4 years 6 months ago #39324 by Megan Anne
Not trying to be smart, but when you have a split floor plan that has two “master” suites? What would you call that? Can’t really have two “primary” suites can you? Two “full suites” maybe?I don’t know. Our most popular floor plan has two “master” suites and roommates love it
4 years 6 months ago #39324 by Megan Anne
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Morgan Brock-McKean
4 years 6 months ago #39325 by Morgan Brock-McKean
Hmmm after doing this for 16 yrs I have never yet met anyone taking offense or not renting an apartment because it was referred to as a master bedroom. We are getting silly! Be customer service oriented, be honest, be empathetic and provide quality apartments - you’ll have no trouble renting it no matter what you call the rooms. OMG!
4 years 6 months ago #39325 by Morgan Brock-McKean
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Matt McNier
4 years 6 months ago #39326 by Matt McNier
For those of you with multiple “primary” bedrooms:
“Bedroom with en-suite bath” sounds normal. You can use terms like first/second/third. I mean, imagine the reaction when you say “And through here we have the first bedroom with en-suite bath”. Wait... didn’t you say *first*?!
For those of you with “primary“ bedrooms on various levels within the home:
Try using terms like upper/lower level instead of upstairs/downstairs. “And through here, we have the upper level bedroom with en-suite bath”.
Marketing is all about the words that you use, and how you position things. You can describe the same exact thing a hundred ways. Sometimes functional. Sometimes glam.
Speaking of, for those of you who are trying to get away from the word “luxury“, might I recommend using the term “upscale“? Luxury is SOOO played out in our industry.
Thanks for coming to my Ted talk ????
4 years 6 months ago #39326 by Matt McNier
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Jennifer Journi Johnson
4 years 6 months ago #39327 by Jennifer Journi Johnson
I wouldn’t focus on what someone would consider primary or common usages... people will use space as it is convenient for them... consider universal terms. A great space, an oversized room, the suite with a full size private bath, a den, a hall bathroom, a spacious full size bath...
4 years 6 months ago #39327 by Jennifer Journi Johnson
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Susan Scharpenter
4 years 6 months ago #39328 by Susan Scharpenter
If I am not mistaken this already went to the Supreme Court -I want to say 1989-1991 and the decision was decided in favor for the apartment industry. At that time we started using different terms such as "The Suite and Drive-in closet" until the courts made a decision that it was industry standards and used for decades in our business
4 years 6 months ago #39328 by Susan Scharpenter