Interior hall entry door decor- what is your policy?

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3 years 8 months ago #47124 by Lisa Gallinar
Interior hall entry door decor- what is your policy?
Recently took over a portfolio that is all over the place. Some residents have made this a whole additional living space. I say some of these are health and safety issues, fair housing - what else?They are all rentals but residents insist that they pay rent to use the whole building (which I’ve reminded them it is for there living space inside of there apartments). How have you handled this?
We are allowing a mat and a decorative door item moving forward.
I know it’s an expression of themselves but we have list rentals due to some of the items.





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3 years 8 months ago #47124 by Lisa Gallinar
Peggy Lannery Crowley
3 years 8 months ago #47125 by Peggy Lannery Crowley
Replied by Peggy Lannery Crowley on topic Interior hall entry door decor- what is your policy?
Send a letter and if the items aren’t removed by a certain date, they will be removed. Easy as that.
3 years 8 months ago #47125 by Peggy Lannery Crowley
Melissa Marie
3 years 8 months ago #47126 by Melissa Marie
Replied by Melissa Marie on topic Interior hall entry door decor- what is your policy?
Other than the front door, the rest is common area and having personal items in a common area is a breach of the lease.
3 years 8 months ago #47126 by Melissa Marie
Grace Law
3 years 8 months ago #47127 by Grace Law
Our leases state they are not allowed to hang anything on their door, use a mat or leave things in the hallway.
Our cleaners vacuum the halls each weekday and mats or other items would prevent that.
3 years 8 months ago #47127 by Grace Law
Anonymous
3 years 8 months ago #47128 by Anonymous
I would check with your fire marshal. Ours has advised us that a doormat and a flower pot are pretty much all that is acceptable
3 years 8 months ago #47128 by Anonymous
Amy Sexton Horsley
3 years 8 months ago #47129 by Amy Sexton Horsley
Replied by Amy Sexton Horsley on topic Interior hall entry door decor- what is your policy?
I dont know how it would be fair housing. I dont like the different paint colors, but the decorations don't bother me. Very common in 55+ Communities
3 years 8 months ago #47129 by Amy Sexton Horsley
Tanya Brand
3 years 8 months ago #47130 by Tanya Brand
We do not allow. Only door decor (wreaths, etc).
3 years 8 months ago #47130 by Tanya Brand
Karen Mallinger
3 years 8 months ago #47131 by Karen Mallinger
Replied by Karen Mallinger on topic Interior hall entry door decor- what is your policy?
Looking at those recessed doorways, would say if it doesn’t block the door and doesn’t extend into the path of the hallway, it would be fine. I think we also have in our lease that we reserve the right to determine what is unsightly (trash bags, general storage, etc.)
3 years 8 months ago #47131 by Karen Mallinger
Julia Rodriguez
3 years 8 months ago #47132 by Julia Rodriguez
Replied by Julia Rodriguez on topic Interior hall entry door decor- what is your policy?
We do not allow. The wheelchair would be a RA request
3 years 8 months ago #47132 by Julia Rodriguez
Megan Goodmundson
3 years 8 months ago - 3 years 8 months ago #47133 by Megan Goodmundson
Replied by Megan Goodmundson on topic Interior hall entry door decor- what is your policy?
contact your local fire marshall for help enforcing. it is likely fire code. those hallways need to be free and clear of obstuctions and dangers for when emergency personnell are running through a pitch black, smoke filled hallway , in their gear, which makes them much larger than they are.
An no, they absolutely do not rent the whole building, they rent inside the walls/doors. The hallway is a common area and is not for their "living space" .
And another thing to keep in mind, if this is a senior building, keep in mind how seniors gradualy lose cognition, memory ,e tc. Allowing them one or two reasonable items to personalize their door or next to their door allows them an easy way to identify THEIR door as they walk along the hallway.
3 years 8 months ago - 3 years 8 months ago #47133 by Megan Goodmundson
Kimberli Potteiger
3 years 8 months ago #47134 by Kimberli Potteiger
Replied by Kimberli Potteiger on topic Interior hall entry door decor- what is your policy?
So long as it can be done safely, I see no reason to stop the residents from personalizing the exterior. Keep in mind that these renters were likely once home owners with yards and space to personalize. This makes the apartment feel like a home to them. I’m sure it helps with resident retention as well. I would tread lightly. I know it’s important to make your mark as a new manager (having been one myself) but it’s even more important to step back, learn and gracefully make necessary changes without rocking the boat too much.
3 years 8 months ago #47134 by Kimberli Potteiger
Wendy Little
3 years 8 months ago #47135 by Wendy Little
Replied by Wendy Little on topic Interior hall entry door decor- what is your policy?
We only allow something on their door and have a package shelf outside their door they can decorate. The walls are the common area and not part of their apartment. I explain also that even if one resident has tasteful decorating not all will so this is how we fairly keep things looking neutral and nice.
3 years 8 months ago #47135 by Wendy Little
Anonymous
3 years 8 months ago #47136 by Anonymous
If it’s a senior community then you should have community policies that you can put in place and then everyone has advised by them but at my senior communities they were not allowed to do that because the problem is is that they get overboard with collecting items the walkers and Hoover rounds need to be inside the apartments they should be able to have a little table out there and maybe something hangs on the door I was at one property and they want to put out Easter stuff and I said OK as long as it’s on your door it look like a whole cemetery out there in front of her door she plastic flowers everywhere
3 years 8 months ago #47136 by Anonymous
Margo Gover
3 years 8 months ago #47137 by Margo Gover
Your lease should address the corridors hall and entry ways. If not do and all renewals and leases moving forward . Send notice out to entire community to stop the precedent . Follow up and be firm. These items could cause a liability in the common area. Make sure common areas are defined to include corridors, hall ways, entryways... area intron of entry door.. etc. this will help stop this no different than gas grill on balcony patio etc.
3 years 8 months ago #47137 by Margo Gover
Kiely Barrett
3 years 8 months ago #47138 by Kiely Barrett
Replied by Kiely Barrett on topic Interior hall entry door decor- what is your policy?
The standard NAA lease mentions it. It is against most local fire codes due to potential interference with escape routes in an emergency.
3 years 8 months ago #47138 by Kiely Barrett
Brian Pollard
3 years 8 months ago #47139 by Brian Pollard
Replied by Brian Pollard on topic Interior hall entry door decor- what is your policy?
This looks terrible! Not to mention safety and fire issues. Depending on the set up of the community a mat in front of the door or decoration could be looked at by undesirables as to what apartments are vacant and which ones are occupied to break into. I say keep it completely clean. It looks more appealing overall and to future prospects. You can also send a letter out giving the community time to remove all items and at the end of that time collect the items and after a timeframe if not claimed, then discard. If it applies to everyone you stay Compliant with fair housing.
3 years 8 months ago #47139 by Brian Pollard
Florin Iftod
3 years 8 months ago #47140 by Florin Iftod
Replied by Florin Iftod on topic Interior hall entry door decor- what is your policy?
If you OPEN Pandora’s box that is what can happen- you let them decorate a little bit, and there is always one that is pushing the limit all the way into the ridiculous and out of the common sense.
3 years 8 months ago #47140 by Florin Iftod
Tony Leon
3 years 8 months ago #47141 by Tony Leon
As long as nothing blocks access to the the apartment then I don’t think it’s a code violation. That’s a good size alcove that they have, so it’s almost begging to have items placed there.
Figure out what you will and won’t allow and give everyone a month or so to comply. Just be consistent.
3 years 8 months ago #47141 by Tony Leon
Shere'e Robinson
3 years 8 months ago #47142 by Shere'e Robinson
Replied by Shere'e Robinson on topic Interior hall entry door decor- what is your policy?
We dont even allow doormats. They are senior properties and we have had more than on resident with a walker trip on the mat. Also, it makes more work for the janitor to have to lift them, vacuum under them and put them back. Yes, we had a fight when we started enforcing this but, after we explained why, they understood. We do allow medical equipment to be parked outside the door if it is next to the wall and not blocking either the door or the hallway.
3 years 8 months ago #47142 by Shere'e Robinson
Debbie Turner Gallogly
3 years 8 months ago #47143 by Debbie Turner Gallogly
Replied by Debbie Turner Gallogly on topic Interior hall entry door decor- what is your policy?
Residents don't have the right to change the esthetics of a building with frufru at their doors. Start putting our letters right away that no rugs can go past the entry frames into the hall, no other items allowed in the halls, and only a wreath or small decoration allowed on their doors. Their rent includes their apartment only and corridors are considered common areas. Because common areas aren't broken down into "rentable" increments, they are only allowed to decorate their apartment interiors. Common areas are merely a perk of living at the community. If they painted their entry I would make them put it back to the original color. I don't think you need to quote "trip hazards", etc., because that opens it up to their "opinions" - and you don't need those.

I would also make sure ownership gets behind you on these changes - I can't imagine they would think this kind of messy hallway is okay.
3 years 8 months ago #47143 by Debbie Turner Gallogly
Lisa Michelle Allen England
3 years 8 months ago #47144 by Lisa Michelle Allen England
Replied by Lisa Michelle Allen England on topic Interior hall entry door decor- what is your policy?
We do not let residents decorate or store items in common area or breezeways. In many states it’s against Fire Codes. You can’t have any obstructions.
3 years 8 months ago #47144 by Lisa Michelle Allen England
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3 years 8 months ago #47145 by Lisa Gallinar
Thanks everyone!!!! We have sent out 2 notices stating the lease violations and they sent in a petition. I have reached out to our fire department to ensure they would back us up.
3 years 8 months ago #47145 by Lisa Gallinar
Debbie Haskell
3 years 8 months ago #47146 by Debbie Haskell
Replied by Debbie Haskell on topic Interior hall entry door decor- what is your policy?
Compromise, offer to paint those alcoves one of 3 colors ( of managements choice that go with the decor of the hallway). I love the pop of color in the pics. But in turn, you are only allowing door decoration and welcome mat. Set a date and remove all items still in the hallway. Dont need to throw away, but when they see you mean business, they will respect the rules. Return the items if the resident comes to the office. 30 days, throw out the remaining confiscated items.
3 years 8 months ago #47146 by Debbie Haskell
Jill Styx Hall
3 years 8 months ago #47147 by Jill Styx Hall
Replied by Jill Styx Hall on topic Interior hall entry door decor- what is your policy?
I have had a constant shoe violator but this is crazy!! It seems like you are on the right track, you rent an apartment and even then their are restrictions.
3 years 8 months ago #47147 by Jill Styx Hall
Becky Mandel Currie
3 years 8 months ago #47148 by Becky Mandel Currie
Replied by Becky Mandel Currie on topic Interior hall entry door decor- what is your policy?
Since their doorway area has that little indentation, I would allow it as long as nothing extended past the wall to where it was a potential obstruction in the hallway. I would also limit it to tasteful décor and or the scooter/walker example.
3 years 8 months ago #47148 by Becky Mandel Currie
Diane Chambers Mack
3 years 8 months ago #47149 by Diane Chambers Mack
Replied by Diane Chambers Mack on topic Interior hall entry door decor- what is your policy?
Call the fire dept and have them come and write citations. This is not safe and certainly is a fire hazard. Let them be the bad guys.
3 years 8 months ago #47149 by Diane Chambers Mack
Rachel Lynette Payton
3 years 8 months ago #47150 by Rachel Lynette Payton
Replied by Rachel Lynette Payton on topic Interior hall entry door decor- what is your policy?
My corporate supervisor always said your space starts and ends at your front door. Not outside of it. I'd just blame it on code. Fire inspector came by said all of these things outside doors have to go. The end.
3 years 8 months ago #47150 by Rachel Lynette Payton
JR Donnici
3 years 8 months ago #47151 by JR Donnici
I always explain it to people from the safety aspect. You can’t have anything in the common space that could be a potential tripping hazard. We have balconies for decorating and exterior leisure. Blame it on the “fire safety code”.
3 years 8 months ago #47151 by JR Donnici
Deb Tuttle
3 years 8 months ago #47152 by Deb Tuttle
48 hours to move anything other than a door mat and door decor or it wld be held in storage 30 days and then pitched or sold!
3 years 8 months ago #47152 by Deb Tuttle
Derek Tarrant
3 years 8 months ago #47153 by Derek Tarrant
Replied by Derek Tarrant on topic Interior hall entry door decor- what is your policy?
Hell I rarely allow a doormat or wreath. Let alone this
3 years 8 months ago #47153 by Derek Tarrant