Question: A resident (1st floor) is requesting a ramp be built, so her grandson who is in a electric wheelchair be able to visit her

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Lisa Rivera
3 years 3 weeks ago - 3 years 3 weeks ago #53689 by Lisa Rivera
  • 3 years 3 weeks ago - 3 years 3 weeks ago #53689 by Lisa Rivera
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    Anonymous
    3 years 3 weeks ago #53691 by Anonymous
    I am not sure this would apply. Ask your 504 coordinator to be sure.
    3 years 3 weeks ago #53691 by Anonymous
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    Anonymous
    3 years 3 weeks ago #53692 by Anonymous
    They have portable ones that you can find on Amazon. Not very expensive. Google portable handicap ramps
    3 years 3 weeks ago #53692 by Anonymous
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    Amy Sexton Horsley
    3 years 3 weeks ago #53693 by Amy Sexton Horsley
    You can buy online- aluminum ones if the grade isn’t too steep. You can grant the reasonable accommodation but you don’t have to pay for it.
    3 years 3 weeks ago #53693 by Amy Sexton Horsley
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    Amy Gutierrez
    3 years 3 weeks ago #53694 by Amy Gutierrez
    Rar are for handicap residents not handicap guests.
    3 years 3 weeks ago #53694 by Amy Gutierrez
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    Ashley M Anthony
    3 years 3 weeks ago #53695 by Ashley M Anthony
    Now, I thought reasonable accommodations were for residents only. You may need to check with your manager on this one.
    3 years 3 weeks ago #53695 by Ashley M Anthony
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    Gina Arballo
    3 years 3 weeks ago #53696 by Gina Arballo
    They may have to pay for it and the company can install it.
    3 years 3 weeks ago #53696 by Gina Arballo
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    Jenny Daniels
    3 years 3 weeks ago #53697 by Jenny Daniels
    Not sure this would be your responsibility to pay for, check with your regional and maybe lawyer
    3 years 3 weeks ago #53697 by Jenny Daniels
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    Loe Hornbuckle
    3 years 3 weeks ago - 3 years 3 weeks ago #53698 by Loe Hornbuckle
    In this case the reasonable accommodation would likely be allowing them to install it as opposed to paying for it
    That’s my guess

    For example if you said “nope you can’t install a ramp” that’s the problematic issue IMHO (not a lawyer)
    3 years 3 weeks ago - 3 years 3 weeks ago #53698 by Loe Hornbuckle
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    Cindi Douglas-Asher
    3 years 3 weeks ago #53699 by Cindi Douglas-Asher
    I would think it is not your responsibility because it is not for the resident.
    3 years 3 weeks ago #53699 by Cindi Douglas-Asher
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    Adrianne Luper
    3 years 3 weeks ago #53700 by Adrianne Luper
    Since the grandson is not a resident you don’t have to allow it. With that being said you can allow it but I wouldn’t pay for it. I agree with the above poster about a portable aluminum one. Would be much easier and cheaper for the resident.
    3 years 3 weeks ago #53700 by Adrianne Luper
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    Jim Mitchell
    3 years 3 weeks ago #53701 by Jim Mitchell
    That's a significant modification, I think the resident needs to pay for it and then pay for its removal when they vacate.
    3 years 3 weeks ago #53701 by Jim Mitchell
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    Eric Rivera
    3 years 3 weeks ago #53702 by Eric Rivera
    Nope. Nope. Nope. Reasonable accmodations are not for friends and family.
    3 years 3 weeks ago #53702 by Eric Rivera
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    Patsy Tilghman
    3 years 3 weeks ago #53703 by Patsy Tilghman
    Have you checked into a portable ramp That could be put out just with her grandson is coming to visit
    3 years 3 weeks ago #53703 by Patsy Tilghman
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    Anonymous
    3 years 3 weeks ago #53704 by Anonymous
    I’d say check with your team but because she’s the resident and not handicapped and he’s not on the lease, you wouldn’t need to provide anything.

    Likely she’d need to pay and provide the ramp herself.

    Think of it as if she was asking for an additional key for a roommate not on the lease, you wouldn’t do it.
    3 years 3 weeks ago #53704 by Anonymous
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    Adam Christopher
    3 years 3 weeks ago #53705 by Adam Christopher
     Be careful phrasing it too. If you tell her that he would need to be on the lease, her next logical thought would be to add him.
    3 years 3 weeks ago #53705 by Adam Christopher
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    Anonymous
    3 years 3 weeks ago #53706 by Anonymous
    Well depending on some other circumstances though, if he’s there consecutively for two weeks or longer - we would have to add him. At least with our management company.
    3 years 3 weeks ago #53706 by Anonymous
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    Kristin Marie Settles
    3 years 3 weeks ago #53707 by Kristin Marie Settles
    I would allow it at the expense of your resident for both installation and removal.
    3 years 3 weeks ago #53707 by Kristin Marie Settles
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    Michelle Fountain-Ahmed
    3 years 3 weeks ago #53708 by Michelle Fountain-Ahmed
    I believe reasonable accommodation applies to the resident. Not their guest. You don't have to install a permanent ramp. They make ramps that are secured but can be removed without damage. The resident would have to pay cost ... After company approval
    3 years 3 weeks ago #53708 by Michelle Fountain-Ahmed
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    Anonymous
    3 years 3 weeks ago #53709 by Anonymous
    That’s a modification. You can’t say no but you don’t have to pay for it. And she would have to put it back to the way it was when she leaves.
    3 years 3 weeks ago #53709 by Anonymous
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    Chris Dembitz
    3 years 3 weeks ago #53711 by Chris Dembitz
    This does not fall under reasonable accommodation guidelines, but rather reasonable modification guidelines. HUD makes it clear that the resident pays the cost of reasonable modifications. Because it's not for the resident but for their guest, it may be possible to deny it (talk to an attorney first), but if you treat it like a reasonable modification (which I would, were it me), then the resident will have to cover the expense of installation and removal. And if it allows your resident to enjoy their time more and doesn't cost you anything, then it seems like an easy decision.
    3 years 3 weeks ago #53711 by Chris Dembitz
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    Cindy Saldana Marrero
    3 years 3 weeks ago #53713 by Cindy Saldana Marrero
    3 years 3 weeks ago #53713 by Cindy Saldana Marrero
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    Kara Lynn Koons
    3 years 3 weeks ago #53714 by Kara Lynn Koons
    It is considered a reasonable modification the landlord doesn't have to approve the modification at the landlord's expense, the landlord can approve this reasonable modification at the "tenants" expense!
    3 years 3 weeks ago #53714 by Kara Lynn Koons
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    Shari LeVine
    3 years 3 weeks ago #53715 by Shari LeVine
    Ask your attorney, your Regional, AND the owner! This is not a manager’s call. Even as an AVP, I’d not make a decision that alters the exterior of the property in any way without feedback/advice from all three authorities. Seek guidance from your RM and attorney and then present to the owner. By then you’ll have your answer.
    3 years 3 weeks ago #53715 by Shari LeVine