When buying a property with already in place leases. Is it legal to add charges to residents accounts ?

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2 years 10 months ago - 2 years 10 months ago #55698 by James Shannon
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    2 years 10 months ago #55699 by James Shannon
    I’m asking for clarification. My assumption is that it’s not legal, because those charges are not in the lease.

    But idk if there’s some rule/law I don’t know about.
    2 years 10 months ago #55699 by James Shannon
    Kerstin Savoie-Parris
    2 years 10 months ago #55700 by Kerstin Savoie-Parris
    In Alabama You can add an addendum at renewal but cannot change mid lease.
    2 years 10 months ago #55700 by Kerstin Savoie-Parris
    Stacey Pichette
    2 years 10 months ago #55701 by Stacey Pichette
    You can definitely change things during the lease by giving proper written notice. Most states don’t allow you to change the monthly rent but it does allow for new recurring charges, along with changes to any existing community policies and procedures.
    2 years 10 months ago #55701 by Stacey Pichette
    Erin Jaurigui
    2 years 10 months ago #55702 by Erin Jaurigui
    Depends on the state. In my state you can amend with 30 days written notice for items like this and others it’s at lease expiration.
    2 years 10 months ago #55702 by Erin Jaurigui
    Anonymous
    2 years 10 months ago #55703 by Anonymous
    2 years 10 months ago #55703 by Anonymous
    Stacey Pichette
    2 years 10 months ago #55704 by Stacey Pichette
    Definitely allowed in GA with 30 day notice. You may want to implement the changes 60-90 days out to avoid push back from the residents. Most aren’t concerned with an extra fee less than $50. But more than that will definitely result in some unhappy people.
    2 years 10 months ago #55704 by Stacey Pichette
    Lori Doles-Manges
    2 years 10 months ago #55705 by Lori Doles-Manges
    The best advise is to contact your legal counsel for your community. Your state & local laws may differ from others on this subject. Most times you can not make changes to the lease agreement until it expires and you have issued a 30 days notice of these changes. I have heard of leases with addendums that allow for increases in water/sewer & trash fees if the local government increases their utility.
    2 years 10 months ago #55705 by Lori Doles-Manges
    Sunshine Cristin
    2 years 10 months ago #55706 by Sunshine Cristin
    FL you have to wait for renewal to add to the lease
    2 years 10 months ago #55706 by Sunshine Cristin
    Eric Rivera
    2 years 10 months ago #55707 by Eric Rivera
    That actually sounds super shady. The ethical thing to do is implement any new charge(s) with new and renewed leases!!!
    2 years 10 months ago #55707 by Eric Rivera
    Rikita Mohamed
    2 years 10 months ago #55708 by Rikita Mohamed
    In Colorado you have to give a 30 day notice of a rent increase. I took over a property and every renewal or new lease we disclosed we would begin adding charges for. Common area maintenance and that we would charge back real estate taxes. Everyone’s utilities doubled. They hated me.
    2 years 10 months ago #55708 by Rikita Mohamed
    Sherry Tompkins
    2 years 10 months ago #55709 by Sherry Tompkins
    In CA we served a 60 day change in terms. It’s perfectly legal if you do it correctly. You serve the change in terms when you send out the renewals and to all on MTM leases. So it takes a year to get everyone on board. Unless you are all MTM or if all of your leases expire within a period less than 12 months
    2 years 10 months ago #55709 by Sherry Tompkins
    Tina Moore
    2 years 10 months ago #55710 by Tina Moore
    Each state differs, suggest checking that states main RE office.
    2 years 10 months ago #55710 by Tina Moore
    Stacey Pichette
    2 years 10 months ago #55711 by Stacey Pichette
    No you cannot add additional charges. However, you can notify all existing leaseholders in writing and start the charges 60 days later. You can’t change the monthly rent amount until renewal but you can add recurring charges like pest control, trash disposal, etc. Just need to review the lease and your local laws - most states are 30 days but I’ve stuck to the 60 days to allow the residents additional time to adjust their budget.
    2 years 10 months ago #55711 by Stacey Pichette
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    2 years 10 months ago #55712 by James Shannon
    When we took over from another property management company, we honored their current signed lease. We changed utility companies and they were given a 30 day notice. When their leases expired and we sent them their renewal offers any new charges we added, we made sure those were included and they were aware. If they didn’t agree, they gave notice.
    2 years 10 months ago #55712 by James Shannon
    Marilyn Roman
    2 years 10 months ago #55713 by Marilyn Roman
    No, you'd have to wait until their renewal to increase water/trash, etc.
    2 years 10 months ago #55713 by Marilyn Roman
    Joe Mendez
    2 years 10 months ago #55714 by Joe Mendez
    Depends on how the lease and additional charge addendums are written. Rental rates very likely no in most states possibly though other charges. Not a good way though to make friends right off the bat
    2 years 10 months ago #55714 by Joe Mendez
    Anthony T Petrone
    2 years 10 months ago #55715 by Anthony T Petrone
    Even of you can don't! Wait until lease expirations or you might have a revolt on your hands!
    2 years 10 months ago #55715 by Anthony T Petrone
    Melissa Cannata Miller
    2 years 10 months ago #55716 by Melissa Cannata Miller
    Know the lease that is in effect, might be different from what used to also know your jurisdiction. Might be best to ask tour legal local counsel.

    We normally will add the new charges to renewals and move ins as normal practice would like to be cautious as we find the skeletons which might have been left behind during transition. Found it to not be worth it to add that stress to onsite teams with all the transition going on as well
    2 years 10 months ago #55716 by Melissa Cannata Miller
    Amanda Guyer
    2 years 10 months ago #55717 by Amanda Guyer
    Sounds like an awesome first impression to the residents... legal or not you should wait until renewal
    2 years 10 months ago #55717 by Amanda Guyer
    Cynthia Santiago
    2 years 10 months ago #55718 by Cynthia Santiago
    I'd read the lease and check your local/state laws. In all likelihood will not fly unless per the lease, contract is null and void with a property sale and notices were given out prior. If that's the case, you risk an exodus. I've never seen that in takeovers, typically all lease contracts are assumed.
    2 years 10 months ago #55718 by Cynthia Santiago
    Tamie Poe
    2 years 10 months ago #55719 by Tamie Poe
    If you’re wanting lease renewals, I highly recommend you come in as calm as you possibly can and wait until lease renewal time. In Indiana, you must follow the lease in place but either way, if you want those people to renew, now is not the time. I highly recommend, you get to know your residence, try to prove you are the latest and greatest management company, and then when they see you are taking good care of them, they will want to renew and they won’t be as mad about extra stuff.
    2 years 10 months ago #55719 by Tamie Poe
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    2 years 10 months ago #55720 by James Shannon
    Thank you everyone for the feedback and knowledge.

    Unfortunately this isn’t my decision- It’s corporates. So I’m sure y’all can relate. But I just wanted to make see if this was at least possible. Even though there will be tons of blow back…
    2 years 10 months ago #55720 by James Shannon
    Stacey Pichette
    2 years 10 months ago #55721 by Stacey Pichette
    Completely understand both your position and corporate’s. Your at the site level so it’s your job to sell these changes to the current residents in a positive way. Creativity is your best friend right now as you’ll need to add value in order to avoid an uproar. But I’ve done this plenty of times (I managed properties in GA for 10 years and saw plenty of ownership/management changes). Feel free to DM me if you need help! As I said in previous comments, advance notice makes it easier. Plan to spend some one on one time with the angry residents as well. I actually encouraged them to schedule an appointment so I could give them an hour of my time without interruption.
    2 years 10 months ago #55721 by Stacey Pichette
    Victoria Cowart
    2 years 10 months ago #55722 by Victoria Cowart
    No. You cannot change a bargain that has already been made and codified in the lease. But good for you going for the ancillary increases! Let me know if you’d like to discuss how you can improve pet revenues in the neighborhood of 30% at no cost to you. Oh… and we do all of the Assistance Animal Accommodations for you as well.
    2 years 10 months ago #55722 by Victoria Cowart