Why are the wages so stagnant in our industry?

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2 years 5 months ago #60287 by CJ Harbin
Question for everyone:
Why are the wages so stagnant in our industry? Rent costs going up , gas prices going up , everything going up , yet I’m still seeing employers offering low wages but wanting experienced techs ? As an industry we have to realize that our maintenance department’s sacrifice so much. Especially with being on call, so if the industry is only gonna offer a few dollars more than burger joints , the industry will crumble .
2 years 5 months ago #60287 by CJ Harbin
Dan Holden
2 years 5 months ago #60288 by Dan Holden
Replied by Dan Holden on topic Why are the wages so stagnant in our industry?
Pin this post. In 10 years when most of your knowledgeable techs start to retire, our country will be in shambles. This goes for plumbers, electricians, framers, carpenters and HVAC techs. There are less and less trade workers. It will all collapse eventually.
2 years 5 months ago #60288 by Dan Holden
Wendy Werner-Draper
2 years 5 months ago #60289 by Wendy Werner-Draper
Replied by Wendy Werner-Draper on topic Why are the wages so stagnant in our industry?
We have to do better for our maintenance teams!! You are all the backbone of our
service!!
2 years 5 months ago #60289 by Wendy Werner-Draper
Eric Rivera
2 years 5 months ago #60290 by Eric Rivera
Replied by Eric Rivera on topic Why are the wages so stagnant in our industry?
Wages arent stagnant only for maintenance my friend. Its ALL positions!!! Its a greed thing. Collect, collect, collect, lease, lease, lease.....
2 years 5 months ago #60290 by Eric Rivera
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2 years 5 months ago #60291 by CJ Harbin
I agree with that statement , but I was specifically speaking on maintenance for this post , because they want a hvac tech, electrician , plumber, painter, drywall repair tech, etc all in one but only wanna offer the least amount they can
2 years 5 months ago #60291 by CJ Harbin
Eric Rivera
2 years 5 months ago #60292 by Eric Rivera
Replied by Eric Rivera on topic Why are the wages so stagnant in our industry?
If i may add to that. The 1 per 100 rule is outdated and ridiculous. Owners these days offer so much more services and have unrealistic expectations that their demands dont match their staff levels.
2 years 5 months ago #60292 by Eric Rivera
Rochelle Kirk
2 years 5 months ago #60293 by Rochelle Kirk
Replied by Rochelle Kirk on topic Why are the wages so stagnant in our industry?
For most owners, especially small to medium sized investors, it’s not greed. It’s trying to stay afloat with all the cost increases that happen suddenly but income can only be raised slowly on renewals and some times not even enough to cover the increases, especially this last year. The bottom line and profit for owners/investors are not as grand as most of you would think.
2 years 5 months ago #60293 by Rochelle Kirk
Laura Ryan
2 years 5 months ago #60294 by Laura Ryan
Replied by Laura Ryan on topic Why are the wages so stagnant in our industry?
Things are starting to change but very slowly. I’ve seen pay rates start to raise but unfortunately it’s too slow as we still have some management co. and owners (or a lot) that are still behind the 8 ball. The result has been losing good people both in maintenance and in the office due to the wages and mental health struggles all brought on by the pressures and stresses of this industry. Not only do we need to focus on wages but also look at the benefits we are offering to our teams to encourage and support their wellness. Both mental and physical
2 years 5 months ago #60294 by Laura Ryan
Jerry Davis
2 years 5 months ago #60295 by Jerry Davis
Replied by Jerry Davis on topic Why are the wages so stagnant in our industry?
We changed our maintenance staff wages and new hires, from 18.00 hr starting to 20.00 hr just for maintenance associate, if their a tech it increases and have a hvac cert it's more, supervisor is salary and a decent wage with comp time if its after hrs
2 years 5 months ago #60295 by Jerry Davis
Patience Harris
2 years 5 months ago #60296 by Patience Harris
Replied by Patience Harris on topic Why are the wages so stagnant in our industry?
My company gave every employee a small cost of living raise. It's temporary but the extra $ it brings in helps.
2 years 5 months ago #60296 by Patience Harris
John Modlin
2 years 5 months ago #60297 by John Modlin
Replied by John Modlin on topic Why are the wages so stagnant in our industry?
It starts at the top. So many times as a staffing company a manager will tell us it's not in the budget, but they agree with us. The whole pay system has to change, and start by getting rid of bonuses being based on NOI. Then the corporate offices will be more inclined to hire and pay accordingly, and not what is going to make the most money for their bonus.
2 years 5 months ago #60297 by John Modlin
Rochelle Kirk
2 years 5 months ago #60298 by Rochelle Kirk
Replied by Rochelle Kirk on topic Why are the wages so stagnant in our industry?
If bonuses aren’t paid based on NOI, where is that money coming from then? Bonuses, with the exception of per lease bonuses / retention bonuses are paid when the company is brining in more money, which is shown in the NOI.
2 years 5 months ago #60298 by Rochelle Kirk
John Modlin
2 years 5 months ago #60299 by John Modlin
Replied by John Modlin on topic Why are the wages so stagnant in our industry?
I understand, but as long as that system is there, you will have managers and even whole companies that will keep salaries low to get a bigger bonus.
2 years 5 months ago #60299 by John Modlin
John Ridgway
2 years 5 months ago #60300 by John Ridgway
Replied by John Ridgway on topic Why are the wages so stagnant in our industry?
As an owner, my payroll costs have increased significantly in the last 12 months. Wages to hire are up even higher.
2 years 5 months ago #60300 by John Ridgway
Jonathan Cheville
2 years 5 months ago #60301 by Jonathan Cheville
Replied by Jonathan Cheville on topic Why are the wages so stagnant in our industry?
Me and a couple of friends were maintenance, we all quit around the time the pandemic began. We still work in multifamily doing the same work, but as contractors now. No more on call, 6 hour days, 4x the pay.
2 years 5 months ago #60301 by Jonathan Cheville
Doris Roberts
2 years 5 months ago #60302 by Doris Roberts
Replied by Doris Roberts on topic Why are the wages so stagnant in our industry?
It’s been nearly a year and no one has received a raise. We have worked so hard, with little support from the corporate office, on a property that they just purchased. Now we are in RENO HELL. 3 managers, 3 assistant managers, 3 leasing agents have passed through the office and now we have our 4th RGM.
2 years 5 months ago #60302 by Doris Roberts
Nathalie Santiago
2 years 5 months ago #60303 by Nathalie Santiago
Replied by Nathalie Santiago on topic Why are the wages so stagnant in our industry?
Retail companies have all implemented increases.

Costco increased its minimum pay from $16 to 17 (regardless of the state) while also increasing the pay for supervisors. They’re known for having a high retention rate because they almost exclusively promote from within. They’re also closed during all major holidays.

Target increased its minimum (now $15 to $24 an hour, based on the market) and offers health insurance for those that work a minimum of 25 hours a week.

Amazon and Walmart have also raised their minimums.

We are definitely behind the times.
2 years 5 months ago #60303 by Nathalie Santiago
Brandi Rice
2 years 5 months ago #60304 by Brandi Rice
Replied by Brandi Rice on topic Why are the wages so stagnant in our industry?
Because in the last 10-15 years that industry has gone from caring about their employees to you are just a number now! Management co are too big now and they just don’t care about you anymore. They talk the talk but they dang sure don’t walk the walk.
2 years 5 months ago #60304 by Brandi Rice
Nichole Lipka
2 years 5 months ago #60305 by Nichole Lipka
Replied by Nichole Lipka on topic Why are the wages so stagnant in our industry?
If owners and companies care about ethics, then they will look at the cost of living for the area that they are hiring in, and start paying people at minimum 1/3 the cost of rent. It’s simple and it is the morally right thing to do. If this is done, imagine the employee retention.
2 years 5 months ago #60305 by Nichole Lipka
Amy Gruver
2 years 5 months ago #60306 by Amy Gruver
Replied by Amy Gruver on topic Why are the wages so stagnant in our industry?
Nor just techs everyone is not being paid
2 years 5 months ago #60306 by Amy Gruver
Dana Evans
2 years 5 months ago #60307 by Dana Evans
Replied by Dana Evans on topic Why are the wages so stagnant in our industry?
Unfortunately, some properties were not financed to afford payroll to current scale or the current inflation, and some owners are barely covering critical needs due to the losses through the pandemic and delinquent rent write offs that they had to find a way to keep the lights on. Some owners just simply aren’t in a position to fund payroll increases because they haven’t caught up from the deficit the property losses caused them to have already paid out.

Some operators are in a position to lead the industry in compensation and KPI bonuses to scale or better than scale depending on the level of proven results, commitment, and engagement. A very critical time to ensure you are at the top of your game in terms of skill, attitude, and drive. Fortunate that our firm is included in the group offering leading compensation with an incredible culture founded on appreciation and purpose. Best wishes for those deserving professionals to find a company match for their worth and be able to give great service to their communities!!
2 years 5 months ago #60307 by Dana Evans
Robert Montgomery
2 years 4 months ago #60485 by Robert Montgomery
Replied by Robert Montgomery on topic Why are the wages so stagnant in our industry?
It's good to see this topic has brought some interest and feedback from fellow colleagues in the industry regarding maintenance compensation. Clearly maintenance are in fact the backbone to the operations and with more work and discussions like this we will see more appreciation towards our team members. Saying that we also have to be responsible to fact check the average comps offered to maintenance through your local associations before blanket statements are made. Our data has shown 97% of the top 50 property management companies have in fact made an adjustment to increase hourly pay in the maintenance compensation and smaller management companies are matching and following one another to stay competitive. It's a working progress in a very positive way for our fellow team members in maintenance. Thank you for everything you do every day.
2 years 4 months ago #60485 by Robert Montgomery
Jessica Otwell
2 years 4 months ago #60486 by Jessica Otwell
Replied by Jessica Otwell on topic Why are the wages so stagnant in our industry?
I lost a great maintenance supervisor to this. He's now a contractor for multi-family, picks his own hours, makes a lot more money, and can choose which jobs he accepts.
2 years 4 months ago #60486 by Jessica Otwell
Shirley Jensen
2 years 4 months ago #60516 by Shirley Jensen
Replied by Shirley Jensen on topic Why are the wages so stagnant in our industry?
Laura,

Well said!
2 years 4 months ago #60516 by Shirley Jensen
Billi Jo Suiter
2 years 4 months ago #60517 by Billi Jo Suiter
Replied by Billi Jo Suiter on topic Why are the wages so stagnant in our industry?
And this is why this is such a great country! We get to choose what we do and who we do it for. While I agree with a lot of the statements on here, there are also a lot that I do not. Not all owners are greedy. Taxes are more, insurance is more, employee compensation is more, supplies are more, tenants are more, employees are more... EVERYTHING is more and you get less for the more.
I love my maintenance, and everything isn't about to pay. Pay isn't the reason the service industry is depleting; we told ourselves everyone needs to go to college when the reality is everyone should not go to college. We don't encourage trades. Hence it's not regarded in the same light as college but it should be.
Just because someone owns a property, doesn't mean they are rich, sitting on a boat drinking cognac and watching the sunset. Some work day jobs, and have saved to invest in the future.
2 years 4 months ago #60517 by Billi Jo Suiter
Margaret Demirs
2 years 4 months ago #60550 by Margaret Demirs
Replied by Margaret Demirs on topic Why are the wages so stagnant in our industry?
I agree the 1 per 100 rule is outdated. We will need to begin contracting out for some of the services we provide, or expand the team to keep up with service requests and simple regular preventative maintenance tasks. The time it takes to replace AC filters, change smoke detector batteries, and inspect for leaks for 1 building takes a full day. It's not realistic to expect the maint. team to also address HVAC emergencies, and other urgent requests at the same time.
2 years 4 months ago #60550 by Margaret Demirs