Question for the group on a recent situation. Jr. High school aged minor stops in to the office, locked out

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1 year 11 months ago #637238 by Karen Mallinger
Question for the group on a recent situation. Jr. High school aged minor stops in to the office, locked out of the home because they forgot their keys. Do you give them a copy? Let them in to their place? Call parents?

I know how I want my team to handle this, but one of my team members is having a difference of opinion and I’m interested in how others might explain the best way to handle the situation. What are your thoughts?
1 year 11 months ago #637238 by Karen Mallinger
Melissa Marie
1 year 11 months ago #637239 by Melissa Marie
No, it’s a minor child and you don’t know the situation. Call the parents (or leaseholders) and get their permission to let the child in.
1 year 11 months ago #637239 by Melissa Marie
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1 year 11 months ago #637240 by Karen Mallinger
Melissa Marie this was exactly my thought. We had a situation where a non-custodial parent had taken a child's keys from them. We ended up having to change locks, once this was discovered. You just don't know what someone's situation is day-to-day or who might be waiting for that kid to get home alone. At least if the adults in the household are aware and consent, they are taking on that liability. Not us.
1 year 11 months ago #637240 by Karen Mallinger
Ang C Schmitz
1 year 11 months ago #637241 by Ang C Schmitz
Is he on the lease? If so, I'd unlock the door for him. If not, call his parent and ask for written permission to let him in. Or, call parent either way to make sure he's allowed to be home alone.
1 year 11 months ago #637241 by Ang C Schmitz
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1 year 11 months ago #637242 by Karen Mallinger
Ang C Schmitz the team member didn’t check this first, but they are on the lease as an occupant. They aren’t a “leaseholder” because they aren’t 18 or older.
1 year 11 months ago #637242 by Karen Mallinger
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1 year 11 months ago #637243 by Joe Mendez
Ang C Schmitz the challenge I have with this is that I can’t verify the kid is the right kid. He could say he’s Johnny Bravo but really be Johnnys friend Billy who wants Johnnys Xbox
1 year 11 months ago #637243 by Joe Mendez
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1 year 11 months ago #637244 by Karen Mallinger
1 year 11 months ago #637244 by Karen Mallinger
Ang C Schmitz
1 year 11 months ago #637245 by Ang C Schmitz
Joe Mendez Jr high kids usually have a school ID or you could ask them their parents middle name or birthday to verify them.
1 year 11 months ago #637245 by Ang C Schmitz
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1 year 11 months ago #637246 by carol adams
1 year 11 months ago #637246 by carol adams
Marylin Evans Alexander
1 year 11 months ago #637247 by Marylin Evans Alexander
1 year 11 months ago #637247 by Marylin Evans Alexander
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1 year 11 months ago #637248 by eric rivera
1 year 11 months ago #637248 by eric rivera
Connie Wakeman
1 year 11 months ago #637249 by Connie Wakeman
Depends on the law in your area. Some cities have an age limit that a child can be home alone.
1 year 11 months ago #637249 by Connie Wakeman
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1 year 11 months ago #637250 by Rosa Duarte
I would check the lease see if he is listed as occupant and then call parents
1 year 11 months ago #637250 by Rosa Duarte
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1 year 11 months ago #637251 by Pamela Wise
Retired now but in retrospect would have an addendum addressing what to do for minors under certain circumstances. Mainly lockouts and an extra emergency name & number if leasehold can't be contacted.I think this would be an excellent time to quickly review with them that when they leave their dependents they are ultimately leaving them with us.Yes, there is already too much paperwork but there is a disconnect in what we really need on all residents not just lease holders.
1 year 11 months ago #637251 by Pamela Wise
Therese Marie Byerley
1 year 11 months ago #637252 by Therese Marie Byerley
I always call parents and ask them to email permission. We all have smart phones, quick and easy and covers us from any liability.
1 year 11 months ago #637252 by Therese Marie Byerley
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1 year 11 months ago #637253 by Brooke Kibler
The old place I worked at used to have us call the parent to verify and then we have them the key to get let in.
1 year 11 months ago #637253 by Brooke Kibler
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1 year 11 months ago #637254 by Stephen Boyd
I would call the parent/lease holder regardless if the minor is listed on the lease or not. If permission to provide access is granted over the phone, I then ask for it in writing as well. This reduces liability. I also require leaseholders to grant permission in writing if their listed occupant need access into their apartment, so that really avoids putting us in sticky situations like this.
1 year 11 months ago #637254 by Stephen Boyd
Karin Gorospe Martin
1 year 11 months ago #637255 by Karin Gorospe Martin
Permission in writing & walk them to the unit
1 year 11 months ago #637255 by Karin Gorospe Martin
Krystle Hall
1 year 11 months ago #637256 by Krystle Hall
I call the parent and get permission then walk the child over and unlock the door myself. If the parent doesn't answer and we know for certain the child lives there, I let the child in and send an email and text to the parent letting go them know we let their kiddo in. If we don't know the child lives there (we don't recognize them and they aren't listed as an occupant) then I would still call for permission and get it in writing that we can allow access. If the parent doesn't answer then, we send a text/email and have the kiddo wait in the office while we wait to grant access.
1 year 11 months ago #637256 by Krystle Hall
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1 year 11 months ago #637257 by Megan Goodmundson
1 year 11 months ago #637257 by Megan Goodmundson
Monica Burton-Thing
1 year 11 months ago #637258 by Monica Burton-Thing
I always call the parents unless I recognize the kid.
1 year 11 months ago #637258 by Monica Burton-Thing
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1 year 11 months ago #637259 by Becky Currie
If they are listed on the lease as an occupant, give key. If not listed, call parents and get permission in writing.
1 year 11 months ago #637259 by Becky Currie
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1 year 11 months ago #637260 by tracie clemenz
1 year 11 months ago #637260 by tracie clemenz
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1 year 11 months ago #637261 by Chris Finetto
This is to be covered at move-in. Anyone listed as an occupant, unless listed otherwise. My personal policy, only the person listed and not a slew of friends, text parents to inform them, under 15 call/text parents first — again, usually these instructions are noted in the software.Parents that have teenage kids, I’ve given some realtor style lockboxes - they can create a secret code and leave a key for the kids to use. Yes, I checked into liability - as long as I don’t know the code, I am simply providing a piece of hardware. That’s actually the preferred solution among the parents.
1 year 11 months ago #637261 by Chris Finetto
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1 year 11 months ago #637262 by Karen Mallinger
1 year 11 months ago #637262 by Karen Mallinger
Debbie Haskell
1 year 11 months ago #637263 by Debbie Haskell
So I had this situation happen where I live. I was told because she was under 18 they could not open the door for her. They said because if something happened they would be liable. I told her that not only am I in the industry but my 16 year old is out in the rain and I work 45 minutes away. They told me that was not their problem and basically hung up on me. I offered to send my ID along with a written letter of consent and they refused. Luckily the maintenance guy on site, who we know ( and I told the girl that) saw her and opened the door before I even got to call my daughter back to tell her I would have to come home to let her in.
1 year 11 months ago #637263 by Debbie Haskell
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1 year 11 months ago #637264 by Karen Mallinger
1 year 11 months ago #637264 by Karen Mallinger
Darcy Diedrich
1 year 11 months ago #637265 by Darcy Diedrich
Debbie Haskell. Unreal. I would never treat a resident that way.
1 year 11 months ago #637265 by Darcy Diedrich
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1 year 11 months ago #637266 by Stacey Pichette
1 year 11 months ago #637266 by Stacey Pichette
Shonda Butler-Gifford
1 year 11 months ago #637267 by Shonda Butler-Gifford
Keep them safe in the office and call parents.
1 year 11 months ago #637267 by Shonda Butler-Gifford
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1 year 11 months ago #637268 by Renae Maisano
1 year 11 months ago #637268 by Renae Maisano
Ann Logan Caffey
1 year 11 months ago #637269 by Ann Logan Caffey
1 year 11 months ago #637269 by Ann Logan Caffey
Laurie Ann
1 year 11 months ago #637270 by Laurie Ann
Call parents. I know it’s strange but I have had parents before that didn’t want their key given out to their kids.
1 year 11 months ago #637270 by Laurie Ann
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1 year 11 months ago #637271 by Karen Mallinger
1 year 11 months ago #637271 by Karen Mallinger
Christine Allen
1 year 11 months ago #637272 by Christine Allen
Under 18 nope...liability. also you can't verify the parent on the phone. Offer him to sit in the community area.
1 year 11 months ago #637272 by Christine Allen
Adrianne Luper
1 year 11 months ago #637273 by Adrianne Luper
1 year 11 months ago #637273 by Adrianne Luper
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1 year 11 months ago #637274 by Dave Scruggs
1 year 11 months ago #637274 by Dave Scruggs