We have made the decision to get rid of the pool at a property.

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1 year 8 months ago #639054 by Kathi Marie
Wisconsin here - We have made the decision to get rid of the pool at a property. It's about 30 years old, in bad shape and less than 1/4th of residents use it (because nearby there are much larger pools in the community with lots of fun features and they go there). Also, since we are in Wisconsin, the pool was only open for three months out of the year, so we are happy to put in something that could be used at least 9 months out of the year, like a nice grilling area. Since I personally have never had to let a community (61 units) know we are removing a pool, I need suggestions on the best way to let them know. I'm pretty good at spinning things and I am positive that the handful of residents who may be upset, will get over it. Send me some ideas!! Thanks!!!
1 year 8 months ago #639054 by Kathi Marie
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1 year 8 months ago #639055 by Jim Collins
If you have a loan on the property be sure you get lender permission to remove it. Remember, that pool is collateralized to the loan.
1 year 8 months ago #639055 by Jim Collins
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1 year 8 months ago #639056 by Kathi Marie
Jim Collins thanks. I think my bosses did that but I will definitely ask.
1 year 8 months ago #639056 by Kathi Marie
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1 year 8 months ago #639057 by Jim Collins
Kathi Marie Great then back up the dump truck! Lol
1 year 8 months ago #639057 by Jim Collins
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1 year 8 months ago #639058 by Jim Collins
Kathi Marie had a client that did that. The property had THREE pools. The one they removed was shot. Lender made them put it back. It was a few years ago.
1 year 8 months ago #639058 by Jim Collins
Rebecca Ross Gilinsky
1 year 8 months ago #639059 by Rebecca Ross Gilinsky
Get the residents involved by asking them what they would like there. This way you don’t invest money in something they aren’t interested in. Sometimes it could be as simple as a dog park or open green space. Other ideas could be a gazebo, community garden, basketball court, playground, ice rink, etc.
1 year 8 months ago #639059 by Rebecca Ross Gilinsky
Ashley Kelsey
1 year 8 months ago #639060 by Ashley Kelsey
Rebecca Ross Gilinsky this is a great idea, I’d send a poll with some options to choose from and then tally up the most popular choice.
1 year 8 months ago #639060 by Ashley Kelsey
Rebecca Ross Gilinsky
1 year 8 months ago #639061 by Rebecca Ross Gilinsky
I saw a tiktok about someone that built their own ice rink and it was so cool. They basically just put a wood frame, then a tarp, then filled with water, let it freeze, and then would top it off and smooth. It would be so unique. Also during the summer that area could be for lawn games like bocce ball. You could have sand at the base. Here is the tiktok: www.tiktok.com/t/ZTR75uEFV/
1 year 8 months ago #639061 by Rebecca Ross Gilinsky
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1 year 8 months ago #639062 by Jean Douglas
Rebecca Ross Gilinsky I love that idea. Growing up in Michigan in the winter we’d flood our small horse paddock. That way we had an ice rink to play hockey.
1 year 8 months ago #639062 by Jean Douglas
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1 year 8 months ago #639063 by Kathi Marie
Jean Cunningham Douglas a kid we used to flood our backyard because it was the biggest one of all of our friends and we would go ice-skating on it. Such good memories.
1 year 8 months ago #639063 by Kathi Marie
Rachel Hammond
1 year 8 months ago #639064 by Rachel Hammond
As well as a bbq area you may consider the following:Planters that you rent out so residents can grow their own veggies. Bocci ball Outdoor fitness equipment
1 year 8 months ago #639064 by Rachel Hammond
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1 year 8 months ago #639065 by Kathi Marie
Rachel Hammond i love the planters idea..all of it actually..thanks!!
1 year 8 months ago #639065 by Kathi Marie
Jeff Lawson
1 year 8 months ago #639066 by Jeff Lawson
LOL I was born in WS. Beer garden, ice fishing, or deer cleaning station.
1 year 8 months ago #639066 by Jeff Lawson
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1 year 8 months ago #639067 by Kathi Marie
Jeff Lawson id always be good with a beer garden over here!!
1 year 8 months ago #639067 by Kathi Marie
Jesse Holland
1 year 8 months ago #639068 by Jesse Holland
Be honest with people. If you replace the pool you would have to raise rents even more and the number of people who use it didn’t justify raising everyone.
1 year 8 months ago #639068 by Jesse Holland
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1 year 8 months ago #639069 by Kathi Marie
Jesse Holland that is an excellent point. I can’t even tell you how many times I was at that property last summer on a really nice day and there was just nobody in the pool. We would much rather give them something they want to use, but can also use more than the limitations of the pool gave us. So I think overall we won’t get any flack for it.
1 year 8 months ago #639069 by Kathi Marie
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1 year 8 months ago #639070 by Shannon Ray
I'm in Ohio. We tore out and replaced our pool a few years ago, and due to construction delays/ issues with permits and inspections, it was down for 3 years and that was hands down the worst period for me at this property. I think making it a positive permanent change will be most helpful, and asking for their input will go a long way towards making them feel like they have a say so in their home. Megan's letter above is a good start, I think!
1 year 8 months ago #639070 by Shannon Ray
Josué Adam
1 year 8 months ago #639071 by Josué Adam
What about making something kind of Austin-ish. Make a partially dirt field, have the string lights above, some cool outdoor furniture. Have a partially covered area with a outdoor kitchen. Have the area be accessible to vehicles if possible. Then you could host food trucks there. Fire pit if you have the budget. Have it be a community area where you can host events in the summer time, but still could be used in the spring and fall
1 year 8 months ago #639071 by Josué Adam
Mike Powers
1 year 8 months ago #639072 by Mike Powers
Are you going to allow people to break lease losing a major lifestyle amenity ?BEFORE announcing or deciding, I would suggest asking residents a series of questions.....you can't remove pool and not provide the what's next part of story.Opening sentence - Our community wants to provide amenities and features residents enjoy and will use. Our next investments will be based on your feedback because we want to offer what you desire for your lifestyle.Ask residents what amenity or recreational space is missing ? Horseshoes, pickleball, basketball, children's playground, gazebo grill zone, community garden, corn hole, yoga zone, List current amenities and ask to rank importance ?List current amenities and ask when available, how often used ? Daily/weekly/monthly/less than monthly/rarelyWhat are you going to do if you learn half people use pool (infrequently) and rank high for want need ?I don't see how you can remove without knowing what people want instead.
1 year 8 months ago #639072 by Mike Powers
Brenda Summers Borino
1 year 8 months ago #639073 by Brenda Summers Borino
Put a fun twist at the end of your paragraph saying the pool is being removed. Turn it into a contest for the residents asking them for suggestions of what they would like to have. We did this on a 100 unit property and it ended up the residents ask for more parking and/or storage units
1 year 8 months ago #639073 by Brenda Summers Borino
Brad Wuerer
1 year 8 months ago #639074 by Brad Wuerer
I would have the plan to re use the space in hand. In order to better serve you we have decided to re purpose the pool and deck space for ..... we have found that most residents used the community pools located near us.
1 year 8 months ago #639074 by Brad Wuerer
Donna Schatz Pinney
1 year 8 months ago #639075 by Donna Schatz Pinney
1 year 8 months ago #639075 by Donna Schatz Pinney
Larry Berry
1 year 8 months ago #639076 by Larry Berry
Maybe a good place for a Bark Park. Or for Western states, Pet Home on the Range.
1 year 8 months ago #639076 by Larry Berry
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1 year 8 months ago #639077 by Megan Goodmundson
"Dear Residents, we have some exciting happenings at XYZ community and need your help. There will be some construction happening to remove the pool. It has been determined that the age and condition of the pool is not conducive to continuing to operate and the costs to modernize an amenity that can only be enjoyed for three months is not feasible. BUT, with that renovation comes the opportunity for a new amenity . Please give us your feedback on some ideas that could go in that area. For example, blhalbhalblahg. You can submit your ideas by senidng an email to ____."
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1 year 8 months ago #639077 by Megan Goodmundson
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1 year 8 months ago #639078 by Miles Scruggs
Megan Goodmundson my reply to your letter. Replace it with a covered and heated pool that we can enjoy for 12 months out of the year.
1 year 8 months ago #639078 by Miles Scruggs
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1 year 8 months ago #639079 by Kathi Marie
1 year 8 months ago #639079 by Kathi Marie
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1 year 8 months ago #639080 by Megan Goodmundson
Miles Scruggs my reply to your reply - OK! Everyone's rent is going up $1000 per month
1 year 8 months ago #639080 by Megan Goodmundson
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1 year 8 months ago #639081 by Megan Goodmundson
Make the announcement of what they are getting ( picnic area, grilling area, nature garden with seating spots, etc) and then within that announcement say where it is going to go - " in the place where pool currently is located"
1 year 8 months ago #639081 by Megan Goodmundson
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1 year 8 months ago #639082 by Mark Tanguay
Pool is getting old beyond repair (states that it is not your choice to take it out). Better pools exist in the community already (not losing an amenity). Instead of putting in another pool (which already exists in the community), you're upgrading to features and amenities that would be better utilized by the residents (adding new amenities). I frequently use the words "as you are aware..." as you are aware the pool is old... as you are aware the pool is broken... as you are aware there are better more popular pools.... as you are aware this is the ideal time to add new amenities. "As you are aware" establishes agreement, even if they had not even considered agreeing beforehand, or may not have previously agreed. Nobody will come to you and argue that they were not aware! Your tone should be that the current pool has to go no matter what, and that you're adding new amenities instead of duplicating existing amenities.
1 year 8 months ago #639082 by Mark Tanguay
Spencer Valentich
1 year 8 months ago #639083 by Spencer Valentich
Hold a resident event and have a voting pool (lol) between 2 or 3 options.
1 year 8 months ago #639083 by Spencer Valentich
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1 year 8 months ago #639084 by Renae Maisano
I have gotten rid of pools and the reaction was immediate but died quickly. It helps if the demolition is started long before pool season, like now.
1 year 8 months ago #639084 by Renae Maisano
Anonymous
1 year 8 months ago #639159 by Anonymous
Ice fishing on the lawn? Ummm okay.
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1 year 8 months ago #639173 by Paul Rhodes
As a former pool contractor, be sure and fully de/commission the pool shell and related plumbing. I've seen issues at pools where the shell wasn't perforated effectively, and water from rain or high water tables would build up in/around it ruining anything that was put on top. The plumbing in the ground can lead to landscaping/erosion/safety concerns down the road too.
1 year 8 months ago #639173 by Paul Rhodes