Wisconsin here - We have made the decision to get rid of the pool at a property. It's about 30 years old, in bad shape and less than 1/4th of residents use it (because nearby there are much larger pools in the community with lots of fun features and they go there). Also, since we are in Wisconsin, the pool was only open for three months out of the year, so we are happy to put in something that could be used at least 9 months out of the year, like a nice grilling area. Since I personally have never had to let a community (61 units) know we are removing a pool, I need suggestions on the best way to let them know. I'm pretty good at spinning things and I am positive that the handful of residents who may be upset, will get over it. Send me some ideas!! Thanks!!!
Kathi Marie had a client that did that. The property had THREE pools. The one they removed was shot. Lender made them put it back. It was a few years ago.
Get the residents involved by asking them what they would like there. This way you don’t invest money in something they aren’t interested in. Sometimes it could be as simple as a dog park or open green space. Other ideas could be a gazebo, community garden, basketball court, playground, ice rink, etc.
1 year 8 months ago#639059by Rebecca Ross Gilinsky
I saw a tiktok about someone that built their own ice rink and it was so cool. They basically just put a wood frame, then a tarp, then filled with water, let it freeze, and then would top it off and smooth. It would be so unique. Also during the summer that area could be for lawn games like bocce ball. You could have sand at the base. Here is the tiktok:
www.tiktok.com/t/ZTR75uEFV/
1 year 8 months ago#639061by Rebecca Ross Gilinsky
Rebecca Ross Gilinsky I love that idea. Growing up in Michigan in the winter we’d flood our small horse paddock. That way we had an ice rink to play hockey.
Jean Cunningham Douglas a kid we used to flood our backyard because it was the biggest one of all of our friends and we would go ice-skating on it. Such good memories.
As well as a bbq area you may consider the following:Planters that you rent out so residents can grow their own veggies. Bocci ball Outdoor fitness equipment
Be honest with people. If you replace the pool you would have to raise rents even more and the number of people who use it didn’t justify raising everyone.
Jesse Holland that is an excellent point. I can’t even tell you how many times I was at that property last summer on a really nice day and there was just nobody in the pool. We would much rather give them something they want to use, but can also use more than the limitations of the pool gave us. So I think overall we won’t get any flack for it.
I'm in Ohio. We tore out and replaced our pool a few years ago, and due to construction delays/ issues with permits and inspections, it was down for 3 years and that was hands down the worst period for me at this property. I think making it a positive permanent change will be most helpful, and asking for their input will go a long way towards making them feel like they have a say so in their home. Megan's letter above is a good start, I think!
What about making something kind of Austin-ish. Make a partially dirt field, have the string lights above, some cool outdoor furniture. Have a partially covered area with a outdoor kitchen. Have the area be accessible to vehicles if possible. Then you could host food trucks there. Fire pit if you have the budget. Have it be a community area where you can host events in the summer time, but still could be used in the spring and fall
Are you going to allow people to break lease losing a major lifestyle amenity ?BEFORE announcing or deciding, I would suggest asking residents a series of questions.....you can't remove pool and not provide the what's next part of story.Opening sentence - Our community wants to provide amenities and features residents enjoy and will use. Our next investments will be based on your feedback because we want to offer what you desire for your lifestyle.Ask residents what amenity or recreational space is missing ? Horseshoes, pickleball, basketball, children's playground, gazebo grill zone, community garden, corn hole, yoga zone, List current amenities and ask to rank importance ?List current amenities and ask when available, how often used ? Daily/weekly/monthly/less than monthly/rarelyWhat are you going to do if you learn half people use pool (infrequently) and rank high for want need ?I don't see how you can remove without knowing what people want instead.
Put a fun twist at the end of your paragraph saying the pool is being removed. Turn it into a contest for the residents asking them for suggestions of what they would like to have. We did this on a 100 unit property and it ended up the residents ask for more parking and/or storage units
1 year 8 months ago#639073by Brenda Summers Borino
I would have the plan to re use the space in hand. In order to better serve you we have decided to re purpose the pool and deck space for ..... we have found that most residents used the community pools located near us.
"Dear Residents, we have some exciting happenings at XYZ community and need your help. There will be some construction happening to remove the pool. It has been determined that the age and condition of the pool is not conducive to continuing to operate and the costs to modernize an amenity that can only be enjoyed for three months is not feasible. BUT, with that renovation comes the opportunity for a new amenity . Please give us your feedback on some ideas that could go in that area. For example, blhalbhalblahg. You can submit your ideas by senidng an email to ____."
Make the announcement of what they are getting ( picnic area, grilling area, nature garden with seating spots, etc) and then within that announcement say where it is going to go - " in the place where pool currently is located"
Pool is getting old beyond repair (states that it is not your choice to take it out). Better pools exist in the community already (not losing an amenity). Instead of putting in another pool (which already exists in the community), you're upgrading to features and amenities that would be better utilized by the residents (adding new amenities). I frequently use the words "as you are aware..." as you are aware the pool is old... as you are aware the pool is broken... as you are aware there are better more popular pools.... as you are aware this is the ideal time to add new amenities. "As you are aware" establishes agreement, even if they had not even considered agreeing beforehand, or may not have previously agreed. Nobody will come to you and argue that they were not aware! Your tone should be that the current pool has to go no matter what, and that you're adding new amenities instead of duplicating existing amenities.
As a former pool contractor, be sure and fully de/commission the pool shell and related plumbing. I've seen issues at pools where the shell wasn't perforated effectively, and water from rain or high water tables would build up in/around it ruining anything that was put on top. The plumbing in the ground can lead to landscaping/erosion/safety concerns down the road too.