When you send out your lease renewal offers, what is too much for a monthly increase?

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1 year 11 months ago #637971 by Robert Hoop
Curious...When you send out your lease renewal offers, what is too much for a monthly increase? Is a $1,000 increase per month too much? $500? $250? $50 per month? What are your thoughts?
After holding increases to a minimum for several years during the covid shutdowns, most management companies in Houston are offering 6%-14% increases.
I phrased the question using dollar amounts because, when you use a percentage, it does not sound like much; however, when you do the math, the actual numbers are pretty steep. Our company is very good to our residents and we keep increases within a very reasonable range. When I receive calls from prospects telling me about some of their rent increases, it blows me away.
1 year 11 months ago #637971 by Robert Hoop
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1 year 11 months ago #637972 by Amanda Gunn
I look at it more in terms of percentage increase. Our company opted for a conservative approach of 5-9%. In some cases, it's 20% less than market.
1 year 11 months ago #637972 by Amanda Gunn
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1 year 11 months ago #637973 by Shady Morales
What market are you in that gave a $1,000 increase over the previous term?
1 year 11 months ago #637973 by Shady Morales
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1 year 11 months ago #637974 by Julie Curtis
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1 year 11 months ago #637974 by Julie Curtis
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1 year 11 months ago #637975 by Robert Hoop
1 year 11 months ago #637975 by Robert Hoop
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1 year 11 months ago #637976 by Erin Balta
Shady Morales my biggest I gave was $700. Last April. South Florida
1 year 11 months ago #637976 by Erin Balta
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1 year 11 months ago #637977 by Chris Finetto
Is this a for real question? What market, current rents, market rents, comps, concessions, property quality, lease term, length of tenancy…
1 year 11 months ago #637977 by Chris Finetto
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1 year 11 months ago #637978 by Robert Hoop
Chris Finetto If we hold our increases to 6%, we are still looking at $100-$430 per month.
1 year 11 months ago #637978 by Robert Hoop
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1 year 11 months ago #637979 by Chris Finetto
Robert Hoop — Seriously, take as much as much as the market will allow. If you can get $1,000, take it. Keep in mind that you when circle back in a year, you’ll likely not get another $1,000. There’s no magic number or percentage. Also, check your comps. Guessing you’re new to this.Yes, there are some cities that restrict rent increases so check with your apartment association.
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1 year 11 months ago #637979 by Chris Finetto
Debbie Haskell
1 year 11 months ago #637980 by Debbie Haskell
Rent controlled city..... 5% max.
1 year 11 months ago #637980 by Debbie Haskell
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1 year 11 months ago #637981 by Jessica DeLano
1 year 11 months ago #637981 by Jessica DeLano
Debbie Haskell
1 year 11 months ago #637982 by Debbie Haskell
Jessica DeLano woodbridge.,nj
1 year 11 months ago #637982 by Debbie Haskell
Andria Antoine
1 year 11 months ago #637983 by Andria Antoine
Pft. Whatever law limits. I'd go all they way to market if I could. But not over.
1 year 11 months ago #637983 by Andria Antoine
Nicole Bowman
1 year 11 months ago #637984 by Nicole Bowman
Typically 5% to 7% $1000 increase is insane unless you tore the whole place down and rebuilt brand new
1 year 11 months ago #637984 by Nicole Bowman
Jerry Davis
1 year 11 months ago #637985 by Jerry Davis
Look at state law where you're at, is there a cap? look at the market, remember rates are coming down in most markets, the wise move would be 5 - 7 %, remember retention is the goal not chase them to your competitor. Also, it's cheaper to retain the resident than have a make-ready that may sit, rule of thumb is to spend 100 today and save a 1000 tomorrow
1 year 11 months ago #637985 by Jerry Davis
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1 year 11 months ago #637986 by Julie Curtis
If someone is $1000 below asking (and you are achieving asking) they can take the increase or they can leave. Same with $500! Under that…. Depends on how many people you have below market and what velocity you can pre-lease at!
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1 year 11 months ago #637986 by Julie Curtis
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1 year 11 months ago #637987 by Valerie Sargent
It depends on your state, as some of them have limits on annual increases. Many companies have policies that allow only a certain percentage increase. And just because you can raise the rent high doesn’t mean you should. Many (most) people have not had cost of living increases that would support such a dramatic increase. Resident retention is important, as is doing business in the right way.
1 year 11 months ago #637987 by Valerie Sargent
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1 year 11 months ago #637988 by Stacey Pichette
Increases are all about how you “sell it”. Make sure what you’re asking for is competitive within your market and consider offering something as an incentive. Many people feel that a $200 increase is too much until they shop around and find other communities costing much more. Discuss the benefits of staying vs moving. It almost always costs more to move elsewhere.
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1 year 11 months ago #637988 by Stacey Pichette
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1 year 11 months ago #637989 by Robert Hoop
We had an 89% retention rate at my property over the last 12 months. I am asking about the industry as a whole. Percentages sound small, but they translate into substantial increases.
1 year 11 months ago #637989 by Robert Hoop
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1 year 11 months ago #637990 by Stacey Pichette
Robert Hoop We’ve been pushing 15% increases on average. Some more, some less just depending on what they’re currently paying versus the new market rate. A few went from $995 to $1525
1 year 11 months ago #637990 by Stacey Pichette
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1 year 11 months ago #637991 by Robert Hoop
Stacey Pichette 15% doesn't make it sound so bad; however 15% would translate to monthly increases of $240 to $1,200 per month at my property. That's steep.
1 year 11 months ago #637991 by Robert Hoop
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1 year 11 months ago #637992 by Dennis Mitchell
Robert Hoop 89% is way too high. That in and of itself shows rates at renewal were too low. Market rates probably the same. Low rates are very easy. Market rates require work. I’m guessing for some reason you are asked to make market rates.
1 year 11 months ago #637992 by Dennis Mitchell
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1 year 11 months ago #637993 by Karen Mallinger
We've been increasing to market rate, capped at $45/mo. over the winter months. We'll be pushing rents and raising the cap pretty soon though.
1 year 11 months ago #637993 by Karen Mallinger
Deirdre Nell Gaye
1 year 11 months ago #637994 by Deirdre Nell Gaye
The reason why people are homeless.
1 year 11 months ago #637994 by Deirdre Nell Gaye
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1 year 11 months ago #637995 by Brandon Payton
1 year 11 months ago #637995 by Brandon Payton
Emily Foster
1 year 11 months ago #637996 by Emily Foster
Brandon- maybe some companies but certainly not all. This is what happens when states don’t put in place proper rental assistance programs through a pandemic. Owners required to write off hundreds of thousands of dollars in rent to collect partial money owed with absolutely no type of help for owners themselves. This is a business and bills are NOT cheap. The writing has been on the wall for a long time. How else are they expected to “make up” for even a small portion of what they lost?
1 year 11 months ago #637996 by Emily Foster
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1 year 11 months ago #637997 by Brandon Payton
Emily Foster well I guess by putting it back on people already struggling to make ends meet. I understand what you are saying, but our government always fails us, so I don't think anyone was shocked by the rental assistance issue.
1 year 11 months ago #637997 by Brandon Payton
Deirdre Nell Gaye
1 year 11 months ago #637998 by Deirdre Nell Gaye
Brandon Payton no body wants to talk about this and relation to homelessness. It’s always other issues. In reality most people do not $6000/mo and have perfect credit. Idk how 18 year olds and people on SSI/Disability/fixed income can afford even most 1 bedrooms. People can’t eat because their entire paycheck is going toward rent. A person should only spend 30% of their income on housing and that is not the case. Teaching financial stability, investments, retirement in high schools is crucial going forward.
1 year 11 months ago #637998 by Deirdre Nell Gaye
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1 year 11 months ago #637999 by Brandon Payton
Deirdre Nell Gaye they only teach people to be good little worker bees in school. School doesn't actually prepare you for anything else.
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1 year 11 months ago #637999 by Brandon Payton
Deirdre Nell Gaye
1 year 11 months ago #638000 by Deirdre Nell Gaye
Brandon Payton so true
1 year 11 months ago #638000 by Deirdre Nell Gaye
Emily Foster
1 year 11 months ago #638001 by Emily Foster
Deirdre - I honestly don’t think that majority of our homeless crisis has anything to do with their rent increases. We have some other major issues to address, and it shouldn’t start with rent.
1 year 11 months ago #638001 by Emily Foster
Catherine Hutchins-Behringer
1 year 11 months ago #638002 by Catherine Hutchins-Behringer
Depending on your market, $1,000 rent increases are begging for government overreach by implementing rent control. Be very careful.
1 year 11 months ago #638002 by Catherine Hutchins-Behringer
Karen Woodson
1 year 11 months ago #638003 by Karen Woodson
Are you guys crazy? I manage a 55 and over complex. 98% of my Residents rely on social security. I feel bad uping their rents at all. This year, 4%.
1 year 11 months ago #638003 by Karen Woodson
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1 year 11 months ago #638004 by Donna Blackman
Karen Woodson same, we did 4.9% to keep it below 5 so our Agency could approve without escalating up the chain.
1 year 11 months ago #638004 by Donna Blackman
JM Espinal
1 year 11 months ago #638005 by JM Espinal
All I've done in property management is affordable housing. Never seen an increase of more than $20-25. This is DMV area.
1 year 11 months ago #638005 by JM Espinal
Vicki Hurley
1 year 11 months ago #638006 by Vicki Hurley
Market and comps should be looked at too.
1 year 11 months ago #638006 by Vicki Hurley
Crystal Buchanan
1 year 11 months ago #638007 by Crystal Buchanan
Just ask a decent amount. What would YOU be ok paying… treat people how you’d want to be treated but also check comps and make sure you’re comparable.
1 year 11 months ago #638007 by Crystal Buchanan
Bekah Therese
1 year 11 months ago #638008 by Bekah Therese
Crystal Buchanan that’s not how the owners/investors see it! As property managers, we get hired and paid to represent the interests of the owners/investors. Within reason, of course.
1 year 11 months ago #638008 by Bekah Therese
Crystal Buchanan
1 year 11 months ago #638009 by Crystal Buchanan
Bekah I understand but at the same time you don’t want to screw yourself by having tons of move outs and spending lots of money on turns - kind of defeats the purpose. Especially when you end up not getting what you think you will be for those units after those tenants move out. Some learn the hard way.
1 year 11 months ago #638009 by Crystal Buchanan
Bekah Therese
1 year 11 months ago #638010 by Bekah Therese
If your owner says to increase 10%, and you disagree, go back to them with market data and plead your case. If they still insist and it backfires, that’s on them, not you. Your job is sprotected bc you tried to causation, but you followed their interest. However, if they find out that you’re not getting them the rates they could be getting, they’ll find another property manager who will. It’s a balance, for sure, but it’s gotta tip in their favor.
1 year 11 months ago #638010 by Bekah Therese
Bekah Therese
1 year 11 months ago #638011 by Bekah Therese
1 year 11 months ago #638011 by Bekah Therese
Crystal Buchanan
1 year 11 months ago #638012 by Crystal Buchanan
Bekah Therese yeah, we learned the hard way and now we’ve dropped down to a more comfortable percentage.
1 year 11 months ago #638012 by Crystal Buchanan
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1 year 11 months ago #638013 by Donna Blackman
$1000, $500 ... these are crazy increases to me
1 year 11 months ago #638013 by Donna Blackman
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1 year 11 months ago #638014 by Barry Lodge
These windows have passed. Trust the industry publications. We are on a rent decline. I don’t think $250 is out test but the days of $1,000 are gone
1 year 11 months ago #638014 by Barry Lodge
Brad Wuerer
1 year 11 months ago #638015 by Brad Wuerer
If you want close to zero renewal percentage then hand out those 14% increases. My recommendation is to push vacant units to market and moderate your renewals to the CPI in your area usually no more than 6% or so.
1 year 11 months ago #638015 by Brad Wuerer
Magnolia Ridge Gaffney
1 year 11 months ago #638016 by Magnolia Ridge Gaffney
My property brings up to market value.
1 year 11 months ago #638016 by Magnolia Ridge Gaffney
Erica N Ruben Cano
1 year 11 months ago #638017 by Erica N Ruben Cano
In order for them to get an apartment, they MUST make 3/4 times the rent. Some are barely making it. When we increase the rent, they no longer make 3/4 x the rent. Some people don’t get that pay increase from their employer. How do we expect them to afford to live
1 year 11 months ago #638017 by Erica N Ruben Cano
Bekah Therese
1 year 11 months ago #638018 by Bekah Therese
Anywhere from 2% - 6% is typically standard. You want to be at market, or slightly above if your product can support it. Check your comps, follow their lead. Due to fair housing, I wouldn’t phrase it as flat dollar amounts unless everyone is paying the exact same rent amount. A $1,000 per month increase to someone paying $1,800 per month is a very different increase than someone already paying $3,500 per month, where as a 6% increase across the board is treating each resident the same.
1 year 11 months ago #638018 by Bekah Therese
Alex Mann
1 year 11 months ago #638019 by Alex Mann
It’s all about the market, but there does come a point where you’ll turn over too much of the building. This is where understanding the objectives of the owner will come into play.
1 year 11 months ago #638019 by Alex Mann
Staci Ruis
1 year 11 months ago #638020 by Staci Ruis
Keeping in mind if the apartment vacates you have vacant loss time , advertising cost and turn cost.
1 year 11 months ago #638020 by Staci Ruis
Anonymous
1 year 10 months ago #638088 by Anonymous
Depends can your current residents afford a $100-400 rental increase? By doing a large rental increase result in tenants giving notice, more evictions or just turning in keys with no notice? Does your apartment community offer the amenities and location that your comps offer to sustain high jumps? At the end of the day are you and the owners ready to have high turn over if you do a drastic rental increase on good paying tenants? If you answered no to any of these questions find a happy medium to reflect an increase and bring all new incoming tenants in at Market to reflect the type of property you are and to stay in line with NOI that shows gain. Trust me taking someone from $975 base to $1300 base results in turn over big time and can be stressful for all involved.
1 year 10 months ago #638088 by Anonymous
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1 year 10 months ago #638113 by Alison Hansford
"Take as much as the market will allow"? That's inhumane. Our rent markets are ridiculous. People like you price people out of their homes. I go as low as our maintenance needs will allow. And the owners of the complex I manage don't disagree.
1 year 10 months ago #638113 by Alison Hansford