I have a property of 61 side by side townhome units, in which there are...

I have a property of 61 side by side townhome units, in which there are two units, across the complex from each other. One has the mom and son (teenage), the other has the dad. (mom and dad are not a couple, but moved originally into one unit with the kid.). Last fall , dad moved to a different unit on the property Apparently the relationship between dad vs mom/son has gotten so bad that she filed for a restraining order, so she says. Asked me... Show more

Karen Mallinger I would take what she has and forward it to an attorney. I don’t think she can force him to move, as I’ve been told by police that I can’t trespass an unauthorized occupant if they “live” there.

Dave Scruggs Keep a copy in her file and research "VAWA" on the HUD website.

Guest Insider Dave Scruggs this!! ^

Kathi Marie Dave Scruggs i already can see she filed by logging onto our circuit court system. (wisconsin). I'll check back to see if its updated and granted and print off what I need.

Guest Insider Sounds like she’s trying to manipulate you into forcing him to move. If she’s that concerned then she should move.

Michelle Tressler What exactly is she wanting you to do with the info? Evict him? Let her out of her lease? Check your state laws covering domestic violence & stalking. In Michigan the leaseholder can be let out of their lease with no penalties if proper documentation is presented.

Kathi Marie Michelle Spencer Tressler they live in separate units and each has their own lease. He is on one side of the complex and he on the other. Id be happy to let her move if necessary. Him too. I have a waitlist. He is pretty decent with us, never had an issue personally. I just don’t want to be dragged in the middle unless I have to be involved.

Guest Insider You 100% should have a copy of that restraining order. Make a copy and keep it in her file.As a victim of DV myself, and prior to me knowing my rights as a victim of DV, Management companies are very uneducated in this area.I suggest you go to: www.hud.gov/program.../fair_housing_equal_opp/VAWA… familiar with DV rights asap.

Chris Finetto Normal behavior. She’s covering her bases in the event something happens. Many states have a “Good Samaritan” laws, if you are aware of an issue or concern you’re somewhat obligated to act/report on it. I have a number of times allowed women to cancel a lease and refund deposit as quick as I can. To allow the at risk party to relocate.I’d also speak with the local police. See what thoughts they have.

Kathi Marie Chris Finetto i have had multiple occasions to speak to the police at this property for a variety of incidents over the years so i'm sure they would tell me what to do. I would not feel bad letting either of them out of the lease if it meant some peace and quiet and kept everyone safe at the same time.

Karen Mallinger Kathi Marie you could also go the route of a lease violation for one or both. If there are repeat violations, that might be a better way to address the issues. You could still work with one of them on an amicable end to their lease.

Megan Goodmundson You’re right. It doesn’t pertain to you. You have no obligation to help enforce it. As long as both leaseholders are in good standing with you thats all that matters and their personal business is just that, personal.

Guest Insider Megan Goodmundson despite her coming to the office? VAWA?

Megan Goodmundson Based on what the ooster has shared it doesn’t sound like the woman has asked for anything that VAWA would provide protection for. Vawa offers very specific protections and isn’t a blanket tool to get another seperate leaseholder in trouble with management. Does the woman want to be released from her lease ? Does she want to transfer to a different apartment? Those are the only two things I can think of that would apply in this case.

Guest Insider Megan Goodmundson my thoughts. The restraining order could be kept in a vawa as a self cert even if not requesting anything. Wish we all would get whole stories in the office

Guest Insider Get a copy and put it in her file. If he lives on the same property, he has rights to be in his home. If he starts breaking the law and causing trouble on property, you can then take appropriate action against him... same goes for her tho.

Melinda Hall You MUST have that order. Remember VAWA

Guest Insider I believe a restraining order requires a certain amount of space separation at all times. I talk to Legal just to dot I and cross t

Guest Insider VAWA applies to you if you’re backed by federal housing grants, receive federal rent assistance, have HUD grants or have a MBS loan (Freddy or Fannie) that’s subject to the CARES act. Check to see if that applies then follow that regulation. Even then VAWA is more about protecting the resident from eviction, denial of renting, damages caused by the abuser and allowing them to vacate without prejudice. You should consult with your attorney for your state as there maybe other regulations you need to follow. In California, where I am, there are other things to consider. Your county, State or City might have additional restrictions. After you’ve figured out what the policies are you can communicate with her about what you can and cannot do to assist her. I’d do it soon and in writing so you cannot be blamed for not following the law.

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